Podcast Episode 3: Special Guest – Bro. Nathaniel Greene

Episode Transcript:

[00:00:00] Luis Urrego: [00:00:00] Welcome to the ten thousand worlds podcast. My name is Luis Urrego and I’m certainly glad that you could join us here today on this another episode of the ten thousand worlds podcast. This is episode number three, and we certainly thank you that your taking your time to be able to listen to us.

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[00:01:36] So we we thank you for you sharing. This is not for us to get big and or anything like that. Our whole purpose is to bring glory to the Lord Jesus Christ, which is our first and foremost purpose, but second of all for somebody to be blessed and for someone to just draw them a little closer to our Lord Jesus Christ [00:02:00] and to reach out to our young people our young believers out there that sometimes they feel alone and sometimes they may feel as if that nobody’s paying attention to them and their struggles, but I’m here to tell you that.

[00:02:14] There’s somebody is most important most Jesus Christ knows exactly what you’re going through. But but there’s also others who love you very much and who are willing to do whatever it takes to see you draw closer to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ because he loves you very much and that for you and has made a way for you.

[00:02:37] So we have no excuse in this house and we want our young people to know that. There is a way and we don’t have to live like the world. We don’t have to live like in sin. But that we can be free in Christ full of the Holy Spirit and serving him and in the fullness that he has called us to [00:03:00] and that I believe you young person you young sister young man young brother that God has called you in this hour. Praise the Lord. Well without further Ado.

[00:03:11] I want to go ahead and get to the to this is this episode here. Is our first episode where we have our first guest and our guest here on this episode is brother Nathanael Greene now brother Nathanael Greene. He is he’s he’s 29 years old and is a minister from Ruth Ruth, North Carolina, and he attends Bible Tabernacle there in Ruth, North Carolina.

[00:03:44] Who his. The pastor there is Brother Joseph Greene who is his father and brother Nathanael Greene is a minister and he has been preaching the gospel for the last few years and [00:04:00] he’s been he’s been married. He’s married to Sister Caitlin for now for three years and and so on this episode. What we’re going to do is we’re going to probably cut it into two episodes because on the interview that I had with brother Nathanael Greene.

[00:04:22] We went a little over so we are going to cut it into two episodes, but we go about discussing different. Things here on this episode just informed one foremost is we were discussing we were there is one point in the in the interview where I get cut off for about 5 to 10 seconds, and I was mentioning about brother Nathaniel’s grandfather.

[00:04:53] Who is Brother Henry the late brother Henry Greene who is very well known. [00:05:00] And who was the pioneer of the of the missionary camp meetings that are held every year? They’re in Ruth North Carolina now, which is his son Joseph Greene who is taking charge of that now being that he is the pastor this past August or this August two months ago.

[00:05:24] They did have their 46th annual. Camp meeting and if it wasn’t for brother Henry Greene who had such a heart for Missions and his motto was if if you can’t if you can’t if you can’t go then send somebody and so he would he started these Mission missionary camp meetings to try to help bring monetary support to missionaries all around the world.

[00:05:57] And as well as [00:06:00] two Pastors in other countries who who aren’t our needs of the funds and so this this work that he started its continuing on today and it has certainly been a blessing to many churches many pastors and many Believers all across the world. And so we appreciate the Lord and reciate.

[00:06:24] Their brother Henry green yielded himself in that way. And so we talked a little bit there about brother Henry and it’s at that moment where I get caught off for about five to ten seconds. So you forgive me there, but I had to continue playing the audio so that because the odd the rest of the audio seems to be okay, so we go into discussing a few other items as well regarding.

[00:06:53] How brother Nathanael Greene had a problem with anger. He had issues anger [00:07:00] issues in his life and how God used his his current wife his wife Caitlin sister Caitlin and and a special service in Virginia to help him with those. Anger issues and so we discuss that which leads in turn to of course discussing the new birth.

[00:07:22] And what is the new birth? And so we we get brother Nathaniel’s take on that. We also discuss regarding how a young person can go about finding a man or woman the one that God has for them and and what brother Nathanael encourages the young people to do. And the things that he’s learned since he’s been married.

[00:07:50] We also discuss in this on this interview here. We discuss the struggles that youth that the youth face today and one of those being social media [00:08:00] and so we get to talk and we talked a little bit in depth regarding that and how young men today who feel a call. In their life about to minister to preach how they can know for a fact that that is a call of God and if it’s in it’s not just them we also discussed that as well.

[00:08:22] So as I said as I mentioned we did go over on the interview Bill a little bit. So we’re probably going to have to put Post-it in two parts two episodes. So on this first episode, this will be the first part and so without further Ado I’m going to go. And go to the interview which was pre-recorded and I hope that you enjoy and that you receive a blessing out of it.

[00:08:46] So and once once I play the first part here, I will I will come back to you and I’ll have my final thoughts for this episode. So here we go with brother Nathanael Greene. God bless. [00:09:00] All right. I want to welcome you to the ten thousand worlds podcast. And once again, my name is Luis your ego and certainly a pleasure to be here with you and I have with me brother Nathanael Greene from Ruth, North Carolina.

[00:09:17] And if you just want to greet the listeners brother Nathanael

[00:09:22] Nathaniel Greene: [00:09:22] God bless you listeners. It’s a pleasure to be here pleasure to be a part of this podcast. Hey Brother Louis has a heart for the young people and for the old people alike and just thankful that I can be a part of it to be able to help maybe say something.

[00:09:36] That would be a blessing to someone.

[00:09:39] Luis Urrego: [00:09:39] Praise the Lord now better than the Faneuil. I believe you’re how old again

[00:09:43] Nathaniel Greene: [00:09:43] I’m 29 will be 30 and December

[00:09:46] Luis Urrego: [00:09:46] 29 years old and get ready to turn 30 years old. And so I would consider you a young person. Yes, sir. You’re young you’re a young person in my in my eyes.

[00:09:59] So [00:10:00] definitely much younger than I am. I’m 39 be 40 next year. I can’t believe it Tom, but

[00:10:07] Nathaniel Greene: [00:10:07] how

[00:10:08] Luis Urrego: [00:10:08] time really flies so so brother Nathaniel. I just wanted to see if maybe if we can start off by just kind of telling the letting you may be sharing your testimony and how. And it doesn’t have to be you know, very detailed but how the Lord LED you to where you are now and and then we’ll get into some other some other questions and some other areas after it and if I have any other questions in between, you know, I’ll stop you so you can go ahead and take it away something that will definitely, you know be encouraging in a blessing to the young

[00:10:46] Nathaniel Greene: [00:10:46] people, right?

[00:10:49] Okay. Well, I think I’ll start. About the right before I came to the Lord was about 2015 the summer of 2015. I was [00:11:00] engaged to be married and all of you know that I have a lovely wife Caitlin. Let me back up and say that first and my wife Caitlin three years last week actually and she’s endured a lot with me.

[00:11:15] We’ve been together for eight years and all together and in those first. Let’s say five years. Maybe she didn’t have the best of times with me. I was I had a very bad attitude problem. I would blow off the handle at just about anything and it was it was getting to the point to where I was scaring myself not only her but and my parents but myself and that summer that’s it was about may I believe Caitlin?

[00:11:50] Head I’d already been struggling back and forth and and I go out drinking with my buddies on Saturday night and then try to make it to church on Sunday morning just to keep [00:12:00] up appearances, you know, because I’m a pastor son.

[00:12:03] Luis Urrego: [00:12:03] And

[00:12:03] Nathaniel Greene: [00:12:03] yeah, and so things like that, but

[00:12:06] Luis Urrego: [00:12:06] let me ask let me ask you brother Nathaniel so hot so during this time.

[00:12:12] So the did when you were younger did you have. Did you come to the Lord? Did you accept the Lord as your savior? Did you did you have a did you have an experience with God when you were younger?

[00:12:24] Nathaniel Greene: [00:12:24] Well, I was baptized at a young age and and I thought I had that experience but maybe I just had it on the flesh.

[00:12:32] So to speaker or something like that because I would I would follow him for a while. You know, we’d have a good Youth Camp or a good. Good set of services and I’d be you know own fire and then two or three weeks later at the back in the same predicament. I was before just wasn’t wasn’t fully committed at that time.

[00:12:52] Luis Urrego: [00:12:52] Okay.  So so then as so pretty much you were going through the motions as usual and yes, you’re [00:13:00] going up right in the kept

[00:13:01] Nathaniel Greene: [00:13:01] playing churches as it were. Yeah.

[00:13:04] Luis Urrego: [00:13:04] Yeah, so it was something that something that is very common. To see especially with what I called second handed the second generation or the third generation now of message Believers is that is that this is all they’ve known right?

[00:13:24] So you could you pretty much you you were born and raised

[00:13:27] Nathaniel Greene: [00:13:27] in the mourners Rex from day one. Yes, sir

[00:13:30] Luis Urrego: [00:13:30] from they want so and this is all you’ve known and so. And I think that’s one of the things that makes it very difficult for young people to that when they were born and raised in the message to see that you know, this is all I know so because they don’t know anything else.

[00:13:48] It’s almost very easy for the world and for the up for other things to attract them that hate the message and that’s all they know. So

[00:13:57] Nathaniel Greene: [00:13:57] exactly yes, and that’s that’s pretty much [00:14:00] what happened with me, you know through high school when everything I tried to do good and I’m trying. To to be a Christian as well as what I knew and.

[00:14:12] you know, I would always I would always fall into that peer pressure category where I let my buddies talk me into doing something or or no it knowing good and well as I’m doing it I’m sitting here condemning myself for doing it, but I’m still doing it. Anyway, just because I wanted to fit in and wanted to have friends.

[00:14:29] All right.

[00:14:30] Luis Urrego: [00:14:30] All right. So so. So, let’s see so be so did you have any any desires to really fully serve the Lord before you actually met sister Caitlin?

[00:14:45] Nathaniel Greene: [00:14:45] Absolutely. I believe they were times that that I was more committed than others and but then you know, like I said, somebody would say, let’s go do this or let’s go do that and I.

[00:14:58] They get in the back of my [00:15:00] mind. No, I’m trying to do right but then I would always give in it wasn’t until

[00:15:04] Luis Urrego: [00:15:04] yeah, it

[00:15:06] Nathaniel Greene: [00:15:06] wasn’t until probably halfway through our relationship. We’d already we got engaged or maybe it was when we got we got engaged that fall of 2014. So it was the summer of 2015 and finally got to that point of desperation, and it was actually my first sermon I preached was on desperation after that.

[00:15:26] But it was to that point and when I finally got to that that desperate hour in my life where you know, I’ve played long enough and I don’t need to play any longer because if I do I’m going to be stuck here. I’m going to be you know, not with sister Kaitlyn because right she had to the point to where she had gave me an ultimatum that may she said if you don’t straighten up and.

[00:15:56] Get right with God and get serious about God, then we’re [00:16:00] not going to last because I’m not going to put up with this for the rest of my life. And I really at the time I was mad mad at myself more than anything. But once I calm down there started thinking about it, you know, I really couldn’t blame her because I would I wouldn’t want to be in that situation because if I got any worse than what I was there’s no telling what would have happened, but thankful for his Saving Grace.

[00:16:23] Luis Urrego: [00:16:23] amen. Amen, so, so she sounds like she pretty much had a good head on her shoulders as far as serving the lord and and and she it sounded like she really loved loved you, and she really wanted to pursue the relationship, but she wasn’t going to do it when when without without you following in love with Christ first,

[00:16:46] Nathaniel Greene: [00:16:46] right?

[00:16:46] She had recently just before that maybe the year prior. Had really dedicated her heart to the Lord and begin to serve him with her fullest. So she was trying to do and then me back here [00:17:00] doing right on Sundays and Wednesdays but throughout the week. I was for lack of a better word a Hellion, you know, I didn’t go out and drink every day or go out and smoke everyday, but there was times when I would go up to a family memory mind house about an hour away and we.

[00:17:19] Drink and carry on and everything and then I would get up early Sunday morning and try to make it back to church and I was times my mom and my mom and dad quote on quote never knew but they have the parental intuition and they knew that something was wrong when I come home and just go to bed and say I have a headache this morning or I don’t feel like going to church right, but now those days are behind me and I’m pressing on.

[00:17:47] Towards the High Calling

[00:17:50] Luis Urrego: [00:17:50] on praise the Lord and in that but the whole time you were just feeling that tug right only because and you eventually it was kind of like me [00:18:00] as this exact same way you you can be out in the world and you can be out experiencing the things of the world but when you’ve actually tasted of the good things of God, you’re not going to be satisfied and happy it out there in the world exactly, right?

[00:18:16] Sneaking around you feel like you feel like a misfit, right, you know and that and so I know exactly what you mean regarding that so let before let me ask you for the name Nathaniel. I’ll just call you Nate because I think a majority of the people call you names anyways, but I’ve no Nathaniel now for several years and

[00:18:41] Nathaniel Greene: [00:18:41] but.

[00:18:42] Is

[00:18:43] Luis Urrego: [00:18:43] certainly just he’s a if you if you know him he’s pretty calm and and and and just a really laid-back type of type of brother and but I want to I want to ask you brother Nathaniel. How did it feel as you were growing up? How did it feel to be a pastor son? [00:19:00] Did you feel like you was an extra responsibility upon you that you wish maybe you didn’t have on you or how did it feel to be a pastor son or or preachers?

[00:19:10] Because your dad wasn’t always the pastor there at the church where he’s current where you currently attending right now,

[00:19:16] Nathaniel Greene: [00:19:16] right? He’s been the pastor there. I believe it’ll be 11 or 12 years this year, but just growing up knowing who my grandfather was. Everybody knows everybody in the message probably know super other Henry Greene was and being who my dad was and where I go to church.

[00:19:35] It was it was tough. Being in the spotlight so to speak but as dad fell into the role of Pastor it did get a lot tougher. You know, he would he would all will often mention to me when I would blow up or get mad or something out in public because I’ll I was spoiled for one thing because I was only child and they waited so long to be able to have children.

[00:20:01] [00:20:00] So but when he began to take pastorship in the church. He would often say you were watched before but you’re watched more now and that never really sunk in until.  Recently, I’ve been when I started serving the lord fully and got the call to preach which I’m getting a little ahead of myself, but I never really noticed all the hardships and all the the the sleepless nights and things that my father had.

[00:20:38] And no one knowing the struggles that he went through as a pastor and I would just sit back and be like, you know, there was a time where I thought well my dad’s a pastor but my grandpa was Henry Greene, you know, I’m gonna make it right but I have to have that on as I learned. I have to have that on experience for myself.

[00:20:56] I can’t get it on Dad’s coattails,

[00:20:59] Luis Urrego: [00:20:59] right [00:21:00] but up this way just to let everybody know for those who don’t know. The brother Nathanael and I guess I should have mentioned this at the beginning of the interview, but brother Nathanael, he’s his dad is Brother Joseph Greene from Bible Tabernacle in Ruth, North Carolina, and the.

[00:21:38] Brother in this message back in the early days. Not only that but they also had a ver a heart for Missions and which of course passed it down to the church which later on after after your grandfather passed away brother Dan daisley took over the pastorship by the church. And [00:22:00] about how long did he Pastor brother?

[00:22:05] Nathaniel Greene: [00:22:05] My grandpa passed away in 1991 November of 1991. So from 91 to believe it was 2007 when brother dad passed away,

[00:22:14] Luis Urrego: [00:22:14] right? So it was around it was around 2007-2008 that your dad became the pastor of the church,

[00:22:23] Nathaniel Greene: [00:22:23] right? Okay,

[00:22:25] Luis Urrego: [00:22:25] so. So here here now is Nathaniel and so he’s going through these struggles.

[00:22:30] He’s going through these through these and knows that that that, you know, he needs a furtherance of in his walk with Christ and now his dad is a pastor and so the pressure is even it’s even tougher now on him and I think that a lot of young people especially who those who have Fathers as. A lot of pressures Satan is right there eyeing those children because he knows that if he can use if he can [00:23:00] use those children, you know, and or misuse them.

[00:23:03] I guess you could say or lead them in directions where they don’t need to go. Obviously it’s going to reflect back on the father who is the pastor of the church so so so so brother Nathanael so. So let’s just forward now to when you met sister Kaitlyn and so you had your experience with God and sister Caitlin.

[00:23:28] How did sister Caitlin without a doubt? Hey, I want to continue to pursue this relationship.

[00:23:35] Nathaniel Greene: [00:23:35] Well that that August we have our annual camp meeting every year and her and her family had come in for that and she was like, I’m she had told me back in May. She said I’m going to give you. Till camp meeting in August.

[00:23:50] We’re not going to see each other we talked.  Every once in a while, we didn’t talk everyday like we did when things were going strong, but [00:24:00] excuse me, but we talked a little bit here and there and you know, I apologized every chance I got and I just told her that I was working on it. I had I had she was going to brother on Spencer’s church at the time where her family goes.

[00:24:16] And brother Andrew his son is my very best friend. So I had a little conferences with him. So to speak and she did his well-being her associate pastor and I actually called brother Andrew the night that she told me that if I didn’t straighten up she was going to end the relationship and. His words were everybody up there for some reason calls me Nate dream.

[00:24:43] They call me the whole thing. Not just Nate or nothing or they call me Nate Greene. So he was like Nate Greene. He said I’m just going to be honest with you. He said I’d be happy if she left you because I don’t want her to see I don’t want to see her fall into some bad relationship [00:25:00] and you know at first it kind of shocked me coming from.

[00:25:02] You know my best friend, I figured he would take my side but then after the more than I thought about it the more I prayed on it. Yeah, I understood it. But then fast forward to August to our camp meeting she had come down and we spent the week together with her family and my family and we had a couple of chances to talk and and I told her I said I’ve prayed like I’ve never prayed before something is going to happen.

[00:25:26] You know something has to happen because I don’t want to lose you. I was tremendously in love with her still and to this day will be for however long God gives us on the Earth. But and she she reciprocated those sentiments and so we went through the week. And we got to Friday night and run around Spencer was preaching I couldn’t tell you what he was preaching now and have to go back and look it’s not that part didn’t stick with me, but I listened intently to the service right and there at the [00:26:00] end.

[00:26:02] He was you know, brother. Ron is has a gift to see things and and he everybody was standing up rejoicing at the end of the service there and he was still preaching and all of a sudden. He looked I was probably almost to the to the back section of seats right at the bottom of the last section there in the middle closer to the bag than I should have been but he looked up and I I’ve been around brother Ron all my life so I know enough to know when he’s in that in that other dimension.

[00:26:35] He’s looking at something. He looks straight dead at me pointing his finger and said, Nathaniel tornados you’re not.  So at that time I had already broke down and started crying and sister Caitlin was crying. Her mom was crying. Everybody was you know, just emotional so then Caitlin gathers her composure and asked me she said can we go down to prayer prayer together for [00:27:00] a relationship?

[00:27:00] And that’s an absolutely. So we went down for prayer. And now

[00:27:06] Luis Urrego: [00:27:06] let me ask you this present annual so brother brother brother Ron Spencer. He said that to you because you know, he was also aware of what was going on,

[00:27:16] Nathaniel Greene: [00:27:16] right? He was being her pastor and everything,

[00:27:18] Luis Urrego: [00:27:18] right?

[00:27:19] Nathaniel Greene: [00:27:19] Okay.  And so we went down for prayer.

[00:27:23] And for some reason will God knows the reason we got separated right at the front of the auditorium. They. And brother Ron came to me first and he began to pray with me and he said God you see the situation you see you see what’s going on, and I can’t remember exactly his exact words from there on out.

[00:27:46] But at the end of his prayer before he said a man, he said he said Satan he said I see this man defeating you many times from behind the pulpit not good and then and then I began to [00:28:00] to the judge. I’m shouting the spirit and and then he went to frames for sister Caitlin. I’m not exactly sure what he said to her.

[00:28:07] But the spirit broke loose and we were both shouting and claiming our victory that not and then.  after the fact they’re meeting after the fact you were asking how she knew for a fact that I was changed right is that she could tell in my attitude she could tell in the way I carried myself and how.

[00:28:29] How all of a sudden I was so on fire for God and the things that I used to let upset me wearing upset me anymore and.  After the fact that brother Ron’s meetings, which are the first weekend in September. He pulled me to the side. He said I want to talk to you said, you know the Lord called you to preach and I said, yes, sir, you know, I gathered that from from your prayer and so kind of gave me some.

[00:28:59] Luis Urrego: [00:28:59] Yeah, go ahead. [00:29:00] Go ahead and

[00:29:01] Nathaniel Greene: [00:29:01] he kind of gave me some guidelines to start in my studies and in my things like that

[00:29:08] Luis Urrego: [00:29:08] the told me now, let me let me ask let me let me interrupt their Nathaniel. So did you know did you know before that? You know that experience that you had there. So you had you had a calling to preach at that time?

[00:29:27] Nathaniel Greene: [00:29:27] Well, you know. Not not entirely. I kind of felt it, you know, maybe deep down and hold a few years before that. I had actually the lord gave me a message but and I actually showed it to brother Ron. Like I said, we’re family friends from way back when him and my dad were young, right and he told me to hold on to it.

[00:29:49] He said hold on to it. And if and this was his words of the time if I remember correctly, and if you’re called that would be a good place to start. So but you [00:30:00] know being a pastor’s grandkid and a preacher’s kid on my mom’s father was a preacher also, so everybody my whole life mostly most people were like you’re bound to be a preacher too.

[00:30:12] You know, it’s in your blood and not always say even when I was really young I always say I don’t want it unless I’m called and they were certain people that I know have a you know, they can see things and they were. You know real prayer warriors real pillars in the church. That would tell me that that you’re bound to be a preacher one day, you know, so I kind of always had it in the back of my mind and maybe down in the compartment in my heart, but I never really knew that I would be called to preach but.

[00:30:42] now here I am a third-generation green preaching the gospel.

[00:30:48] Luis Urrego: [00:30:48] Yeah. Absolutely. I mean just. How the Lord leads things because it can be.  A does things [00:31:00] in strange ways, but

[00:31:01] Nathaniel Greene: [00:31:01] he does they’re just

[00:31:02] Luis Urrego: [00:31:02] perfect ways are so so here you are and that is one of the things that I forgot to mention that brother brother Nathanael he is a minister so which I did have a question here regarding that which I just asked so I’m glad that he kind of LED that direction.

[00:31:20] But now the so let me ask you this brother Nathaniel. So what would you say what would you and before we get to the other questions here that I have? What would you suggest to the young listeners out there for all of the listeners? But the young listeners out there who are wanting to have a partner, you know, they’re they’re looking to they want to get married.

[00:31:45] But how would you. How would you recommend that they approached it? Did you know according to the way the things that you experienced? You see how would you [00:32:00] suggest that they that they do it?  Well,

[00:32:03] Nathaniel Greene: [00:32:03] I would suggest first that they seek the Lord and get filled with the Holy Ghost and and don’t do it the way I did it, you know, it worked out for me, but it may not work out the same for you.

[00:32:18] Definitely, I would sink my whole heart ended in the church. And if in the things of the Lord and He will bring he will bring the Thunder things.  You know, the scripture says seek me seek ye first the kingdom of God and everything else will be added unto you.

[00:32:34] Luis Urrego: [00:32:34] That’s right.

[00:32:35] Nathaniel Greene: [00:32:35] If I if I’m quoting that I’m quoting it on a memory and some kind of my memories not the best

[00:32:40] Luis Urrego: [00:32:40] now

[00:32:42] Nathaniel Greene: [00:32:42] that but if you seek Him First with.

[00:32:46] Then these other things will come maybe me, you know, I used to go to youth camp for that reason, you know to try to find a girlfriend or try to find the hang out with my buddies or anything [00:33:00] like that. But once you get that experience, then everything else will fall into place. I actually heard brother Tim Humes last night and his meetings.

[00:33:10] We were watching a live video. We didn’t make it last night, but he he said glad to see everyone in the house of the Lord. He’s a glad you’re here for this purpose. And he said if you’re here for the right reasons, then you’ll be able to find a husband or you’ll be able to find a wife he’ll give it to you and and that that kind of jumped out to me because I knew I’d be in this this interview today.

[00:33:37] I knew that was probably going to be one of your questions there and I was like, well, I have to remember that so I can repeat it tomorrow.

[00:33:44] Luis Urrego: [00:33:44] That is so you remembered.  Your kudos to you.  That’s awesome, Daniel. Yeah, I think I think it’s not. It’s a normal thing. It’s a normal thing for [00:34:00] for a young little lady and a young man to seek a husband or a wife.

[00:34:05] You see it’s not absolutely it’s not it’s not a strange thing or is something wrong that because God was the one who put that in that desire in both the woman and the man right so but. Do you feel that God was working and on both ends both on your and and on and on sister Caitlin’s and to to bring you to bring you all together.

[00:34:33] Did you did you did you know Sister Caitlin before you know way before when you were like younger? Did you kind of grow up with her? Well, no,

[00:34:45] Nathaniel Greene: [00:34:45] not exactly I met Caitlyn for the first time in 2008. We went I was up in Virginia brother Ron’s and several of us had met some young people from Brother Lloyd walls.

[00:34:58] They’re in Richmond, which is where [00:35:00] she grew up in church at and she happened to be with the group of young people from there. And we talked and I knew her brother-in-law grew up with her brother-in-law their brother Ron’s church. So me and him were pretty close good buddies and. I knew that he was married to her sister.

[00:35:20] But other than that, I really never knew her until we started talking in 2011 when we started started talking and getting to know each other. Okay.

[00:35:34] Luis Urrego: [00:35:34] So was it love at first sight?

[00:35:37] Nathaniel Greene: [00:35:37] For me, maybe but not for her. I don’t think.

[00:35:43] Yes, it took a little bit of time on both ends to.  To really see the feelings that we had for each other and things of that nature. She first had to make sure I was taller than she was that was her. That was her one [00:36:00] stipulation. Yeah, she didn’t want to so I would be messaging back and forth with her sister Caitlin say this new Caitlyn say that.

[00:36:10] You think she likes me, you know, like acting like I was in high school again, and and Kayla would play hard to get there a little bit but I don’t know what it was. They wander over but I’m thankful that I that it happened.

[00:36:27] Luis Urrego: [00:36:27] Yeah, but sister Caitlin she grew up in the message as well didn’t.

[00:36:33] Nathaniel Greene: [00:36:33] For the most part, I think her family had was way from church when she was a little little girl, but they when they moved back to Richmond they got back in church.

[00:36:44] Luis Urrego: [00:36:44] Okay. Well praise the Lord and now here you are. You’ve been married now since 2016, is that correct? Yes, sir. Yeah, so now he is three years that you’re married and. And [00:37:00] how do you how do you how had these three years? How what do you what have you learned in the last three years?

[00:37:07] Nathaniel Greene: [00:37:07] Well, man, I’ve learned a lot, you know naturally and spiritually we’ve grown together.

[00:37:12] We’ve laughed we’ve cried together and I know there’s many more of those times ahead. It’s just I’m really thankful for for a good wife a good Godly wife that that serves God with all their heart. And make sure I stay in line half the time when I’m being silly or you know, you know how I am. I’m a little cut up every now and again, especially when I get around certain people.

[00:37:40] Luis Urrego: [00:37:40] Yeah. I’m just that way too

[00:37:44] Nathaniel Greene: [00:37:44] and she’s definitely a god-sent.

[00:37:47] Luis Urrego: [00:37:47] amen, praise the Lord was probably one of the biggest lessons that that that maybe you’ve learned from since being.

[00:37:57] Nathaniel Greene: [00:37:57] It’s a [00:38:00] tough one there so many because

[00:38:03] Luis Urrego: [00:38:03] that’s a one one of the biggest lessons I learned for me is sacrifice. Well, that would be

[00:38:12] Nathaniel Greene: [00:38:12] that would be yeah.

[00:38:13] Okay. I couldn’t think of the word was there but I couldn’t could get it to come out sacrifices. Definitely. So as I told my dad one time jokingly I said it’s a lot of give-and-take. It’s a lot of you giving it a lot of her taken but that is that is definitely not the case. It’s a it’s a 50/50 relationship.

[00:38:33] Luis Urrego: [00:38:33] Absolutely

[00:38:34] Nathaniel Greene: [00:38:34] definitely.  It makes it a lot better when you have Christ in the middle because as the quote goes or the saying goes it takes three. That’s right out him. There’s there’s no telling if. You know if we would still be together, we’d even be you know anywhere near.  Together anymore, you know,

[00:38:57] Luis Urrego: [00:38:57] so

[00:38:57] Nathaniel Greene: [00:38:57] do you think we’ll that he’s in the middle

[00:39:00] [00:39:00] Luis Urrego: [00:39:00] of it?

[00:39:00] Absolutely. Yeah without him we can do nothing and that’s that’s the best thing while for a marriage to have is to have Christ right when Christ is in the middle. It’s and then it’s. The Lord he’ll take care of the rest. Everything will like your head. So do you feel better Nathaniel that that God really worked on you as far as your temper is

[00:39:24] Nathaniel Greene: [00:39:24] concerned.

[00:39:24] Absolutely. I mean, I’m still human and I still you know, get get upset when somebody sits at a red light too long sometimes yeah, I’ll say I wish they’d go on or you know, but but it’s definitely mild-mannered compared to what it used to be. I would my parents would tell you Caitlyn would tell.

[00:39:43] That there’s am ashamed to say this, but I want to say this to to help maybe somebody else is going through the same thing. There’s there’s been packed work done at my parents house run hit the wall a couple times and just flew off the handle and and [00:40:00] things like that and you know Life’s too short to to blow up like that or you know, if God didn’t have a work for me to do later on in life.

[00:40:10] There’s no doubt in my mind. He could have when I blew up like that I could have you know had a heart attack or had something that would take me off this Earth You know, right but I’m thankful

[00:40:21] Luis Urrego: [00:40:21] for

[00:40:22] Nathaniel Greene: [00:40:22] that. And yeah, it’s just it’s just a blessing to be able to say I’m here from where I was.

[00:40:34] Luis Urrego: [00:40:34] Yeah, it has to be the Holy Spirit to do the work in your life, right?

[00:40:38] Nathaniel Greene: [00:40:38] Yes, sir.

[00:40:39] Luis Urrego: [00:40:39] Yeah. So we’re thankful for because when he does the work it’s done, right?

[00:40:45] Nathaniel Greene: [00:40:45] That’s it.

[00:40:46] Luis Urrego: [00:40:46] Yeah. So before I get to the other questions I have here maybe we won’t get to all of them, but just wanted to ask you for those for those that are probably feeling the call to minister and maybe fill in that [00:41:00] call.

[00:41:02] What do you what what what what do you. What do you suggest or what is what is your for lack of better word? What do you suggest for those who are feeling that call the day that they do first before they even get behind the pulpit because sometimes sometimes you know me being a minister myself. I wrestled with it for a long time matter of fact I preached for for for a little while and then I quit for a.

[00:41:35] And then in a miraculous way the Lord put me back on the pulpit, but that’s another testimony for another time. But what what what would you tell the young minister to the young preacher right now? That that’s feeling that call? What would you tell him at this moment?

[00:41:55] Nathaniel Greene: [00:41:55] Well, my situation was was kind of like the same with yours there.

[00:41:58] I wasn’t preaching but [00:42:00] I actually fought with it for about two years before I. My first sermon so like I said brother, Ron told me that there was a call on my life and it actually told me that that night. He called me out in the service. There was a lot over my head. So I’m imagining that I would say that it was the pillar of fire.

[00:42:20] Nobody else saw it. He saw it, but after some, you know for lack of a better word coaching from him telling him telling me where to get how to get started how. How to do things I did that and I but I still was like, you know, I don’t want to I don’t want to be living in my granddad and my dad’s Shadow, you know, and I struggled with that so and I struggled with that and my work schedule also, I was still on second shift and I was missing Sunday evening service and Wednesday even service until God sent a man in for less [00:43:00] than.

[00:43:00] Less than a year to take over the main manager’s job and though a long enough for him and myself to become really good friends. We still talk to this day and he it was right before we got married in 2016. He come to me and he said you need to be on first shift. You’re fixing to get married and he said I can’t give you weekends off just yet.

[00:43:24] But bear with me he said start here and bear with I said, well, I don’t even have to pray about that. That’s what I’ve been praying. For for a year. Amen o is to be on first shift. So God put me on first shift and then less than a month later he put me on for 10 schedule where I worked for 10 hour shifts and those days I worked for Monday Tuesday.

[00:43:46] I was off on Wednesday. Yeah work Thursday Friday and I was off Saturday and Sunday Sue then around that time brother. Ron had told me in in our in our talks that. [00:44:00] Don’t don’t just head the head to the pulpit first thing start small and this is this is where I want to get to with with that piece of information for the young managers in the one still in the call.

[00:44:11] If you feel that call start small, we didn’t really have any youth get-togethers or any hangouts or anything like that because you know, we’re here at the church. We’re all family. So we hung out quite a bit anyway. Yeah, so then the Lord put a burden on one of my cousin’s Hearts to start having Youth gathered to her house once a month.

[00:44:34] And I began to feel really impressed that this was my opportunity to start small as brother. Ronnie told me so I text him, excuse me, and I told him I said, I think this is my opportunity. I said, I’ve put it off long enough and he said well, he said I think so, too. I said I told him everything I just said.

[00:44:54] I’ve heard worked out the job schedule and everything. And [00:45:00] so I the first night I gave my testimony and I spoke on David and Goliath brother Andrew Spencer and told me he said any preacher. He said if you can’t think of anything else to say to speak on David and Goliath, especially in a youth situation.

[00:45:14] So I spoke a little bit maybe about 15 20 minutes on David and Goliath and gave my testimony and. And I could tell that it really touched the hearts of the young people there. And so then each month, I would build up a little sermon or a little sermon it and speak to them. But I still struggled in my own heart about being in the shadow of my father and my grandfather, you know been great men of God they are and but I battled that silently her hand it was.

[00:45:50] Mm and.  17 brother Danny stamen was slated to preach our youth banquet and.  oui.  Hurricane Irma came through [00:46:00] I’m sorry. I’m trying to get my name’s right here hurricane Irma came through and they knock them out of power and everything for several days. So he felt best to stay at home. And so we had.

[00:46:17] Brother Josh Bennett come down from Newton and he preached the banquet service and then Dad felt impressed to ask myself and two other young brothers that actually good brother Josh’s church that had recently answered the call to speak about 30 minutes of peace that Sunday morning being a new service.

[00:46:35] So that was my first sermon and then I preached a few times at home. In the course of that next year and I still kind of struggled with that, you know being being in their Shadow. So I’m sorry for rambling, but I’ve been trying to get it all out.

[00:46:55] Luis Urrego: [00:46:55] That’s

[00:46:55] Nathaniel Greene: [00:46:55] fine. So that following year. Are you think what brother Andrew [00:47:00] Spencer was preaching and I’m I can’t remember.

[00:47:03] I think it was the banquet service not you know, I me and Kaitlyn are over it now. By the time we got married brother and sister that were over it felt that they should pass it on to us. And so we were wearing we were in charge of it. So I was up on the pulpit there. I was the MC so that Dad and I were sitting on the pulpit and after your brother Andrew preached he prayed for a couple people there and he turned to me and just grabbed me and started praying with me.

[00:47:39] And he said Lord, you see the struggles that this young preacher has and he said don’t let him worry about being in anybody Shadow because of who his daddy is who was granddaddy was. Wow, so that that really helped me out a lot. Excuse me dealing with those allergies. They’re [00:48:00] getting to me there but uh that really you know, God is.

[00:48:09] Mindful enough to come down and answered my prayers and have somebody come for five hours from Virginia just to be able to say that in a prayer, you know to reassure me that it’s my Ministry. I called you to do this right and like I said, I may be.  The the worst preacher in the you know, maybe the worst preacher.

[00:48:36] I still got something to say and sure if he’s got something for me to say you have somebody there for me to listen to listen to you

[00:48:44] Luis Urrego: [00:48:44] know, yeah, absolutely. You know, what’s interesting is that is that God that was one of the worries that you’ve had that you had or one of the things that you didn’t want you didn’t want to follow him.

[00:48:56] You didn’t want to necessarily follow in the footsteps of grandfather and then of [00:49:00] your father and then of your mom. Family as well because just because they were preachers but but it’s interesting that that brother told you that and it was kind of like a confirmation of something that you had all you already been telling yourself and maybe even telling other people but how God kind of came down and let you know that kind of has a confirmation, you know.

[00:49:24] Hey, I know your thoughts you’re at but but what’s

[00:49:28] Nathaniel Greene: [00:49:28] also definitely a big blessing to me. Yeah,

[00:49:31] Luis Urrego: [00:49:31] absolutely. And what’s also interesting brother Nate? Is that what the what brother Ron told you, you know start out small in it and I think that that’s something that for young ministers if they feel that calling.

[00:49:45] The one thing is yet to start out small start out with Sunday school or you know or something like that, especially if you’re if you’re being put in those positions already by. By a [00:50:00] pastor and stuff like that and and then when you speak there’s results that come out of that and I think that’s something that can really help to solidify that call in your life.

[00:50:13] Obviously. You need the Holy Ghost but mother yeah, that’s the most important but but but second of all like you said there at the end if God’s going to give you something to say and God is going to put the people there to hear what you have to say. The right people at so that’s awesome better than you and it’s certainly good to be doing the will of the Lord.

[00:50:38] All right. Well there you have it. We have the first part of the interview and certainly we hope that you enjoyed that and certainly burn Nathaniel regard speaking about his experience in that what he had to go through in order for God to actually get ahold of his life. And sometimes [00:51:00] Saints God is going to do everything he can to give us an ultimatum obviously, but with brother Nathaniel’s in brother Nathaniel’s case.

[00:51:11] It was through his future wife, which is his wife now given him that ultimatum and then of course, they’re being at that at that service there with brother Ron Spencer and brother Ron Spencer. Just saying to him that this is his day and he couldn’t turn back from that. And so I hope that that that you feel the same way that if you feel a call on your life young young man young lady or anybody that’s listening right now.

[00:51:45] If you feel that tug in your heart, it’s time to listen to it. It’s time to pay attention to it. Do not ignore it because we’re living in a late hour and. It’s now time to play games is not time to say. Oh well tomorrow. I’ll serve the Lord [00:52:00] tomorrow. I’ll do this that or the other note today is the day of salvation the Lord says and so heed the call while you can a man.

[00:52:10] So with that I’m going to leave you and so next maybe within the next day or two. We will publish the second part of the interview and what will. We’ll discuss get into the other areas that I mentioned at the beginning of the this episode of what me and brother Nathanael discuss. So before I leave you I just wanted to let you know that you can visit our website.

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[00:54:57] Brother Branham says you’re worth is yours, but [00:55:00] your soul is worth ten thousand worlds, but in my eyes and I believe in God’s eyes and I believe the prophet meant it this way as well as that your soul. There’s no value to your soul. Your soul is worth more than you think more than anything in this world.

[00:55:16] Your soul has more value than that because God created that Soul All Souls belong to him and so fear Him. That can not only destroy the body but can also destroy the soul. Why because All Souls belong to him. Amen. So with that I’m going to leave you and I appreciate you once again tuning into the ten thousand worlds Podcast.

[00:55:40] May God richly bless you wherever you listen in and around the world. May God bless you and may God keep you and we appreciate we would certainly appreciate your prayers for us. And I look forward to being back with you again on the next episode as we continue part 2 with brother Nathaniel greens interview and [00:56:00] testimony.

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