Episode 34: One On One Talk With Bro. Jhun Esguerra Pastor From Laguna Philippines

Episode Transcript:

[00:00:00] Luis Urrego: [00:00:00] Greetings in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I trust that everyone is doing well and that they’re — you’re having a wonderful afternoon, a wonderful evening or a wonderful morning wherever you’re at, because right now, if you’re in the Philippines or you’re in the other side of the world, it is morning there right now.

[00:00:18] It’s evening time and in my part of the world, but I just greet you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I welcome you to the Ten Thousand Worlds live video program. And eventually this will be turned into a podcast and you can visit us at, at our website, 10k worlds.com and there you’ll be able to listen to the podcast at a later time.

[00:00:40] With me today, I have a very special friend from the Philippines. He’s the pastor of Token Life Ministries Church in Laguna, Philippines, and it’s brother Jhun Esguerra. Brother Jhun Esguerra, I met brother Jhun back in, 2013. I believe brother, Jhun, if I’m not mistaken. When I was [00:01:00] last there, I was preaching a youth camp and, there in Cavite and that’s when I met brother Jhun and I found him to be a very…

[00:01:08] A wonderful brother, very, so, so easy to get along with and just very, very, very precious, fellowship that we had. Didn’t get to fellowship a long time, but, but we did get to fellowship some and, I think he’s a wonderful brother and I believe that you’ll receive a blessing from him this evening. So brother, Jhun, if you want to greet our, our viewers and want to greet our listeners.

[00:01:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:01:32] Yeah, good morning here in Manila then, we didn’t, there is a place for Luis. To all the, the brethren around the world to the mystical universal body. We thank God for this opportunity to be a part of this program. As, as I, as I, and brother Luis are discussing, we have no desire, but to glorify our Lord in our [00:02:00] age that we live in and, by this, the Bride will be edified.

[00:02:06] So when I was, invited, and it is a privilege, brother Luis to be, to be invited here, Thank you. Thank God. And thank you. And, my prayer is just to be a blessing. I am just one pebble in the beach.

[00:02:21] Amen.

[00:02:21] I am just one part of the body. If I can do small things, it is in my heart just to give my best for the Lord. It will contribute a little to the body, but I believe the body of Christ is perfect.

[00:02:38] And thank you for giving this opportunity and I just want it to be a blessing and let us glorify God in this program, you have a wonderful program brother Luis.

[00:02:50] Luis Urrego: [00:02:50] Well, thank you, brother Jhun. Thank you, brother. Jhun. That’s that’s a, that is like you said, that is our purpose is just to be able to be a blessing. And if one little thing, one little phrase [00:03:00] that maybe a, a person that, that that’s being interviewed or that I could say that will just draw that person just a little bit closer to Christ.

[00:03:08] That is. Yeah, that’s worth it all, you know, or even save somebody, you know, because our program is called Ten Thousand Worlds. And if you don’t know already, brother Branham said that your soul is worth 10,000 worlds. In other words, one soul. So in other words, there’s unlimited value for just one soul. So that is our purpose here as brother Jhun said.

[00:03:31] So we thank you for tuning in and just thank brother Jhun for taking the time to be here today. Brother Jhun I, I wanna, I wanna, first of all, just, just, tell you that I love the background of, of, of your church there.

[00:03:44] Jhun Esguerra: [00:03:44] Thank you

[00:03:45] Luis Urrego: [00:03:45] yea.

[00:03:45] Jhun Esguerra: [00:03:45] Thank you, Thanks for the compliments. This, I have no idea, but. Yeah. That’s how the body works. If I cannot do something, they can do it.

[00:03:56] Luis Urrego: [00:03:56] Amen. Amen.

[00:03:58] Jhun Esguerra: [00:03:58] They need me, I need them as well. We need each [00:04:00] other.

[00:04:00] Amen.

[00:04:01] That’s the pulpit, that’s the stage.

[00:04:04] Luis Urrego: [00:04:04] Is that’s where the pulpit is at correct?

[00:04:09] Jhun Esguerra: [00:04:09] Yeah. And then I always remember in the Bible, all the puppets, as I spoke at this work.

[00:04:19] Luis Urrego: [00:04:19] Hey, man. You’re welcome for the June. Is that, is that brick at the top? At the top there. Okay. Wow. That’s beautiful. Beautiful,

[00:04:34] Jhun Esguerra: [00:04:34] comfortable staying in this kind of atmosphere.

[00:04:38] Luis Urrego: [00:04:38] Amen.

[00:04:41] Jhun Esguerra: [00:04:41] I said to the team. I’ll go to the stage. I’ll just sit down, but the stage. Yeah,

[00:04:49] Luis Urrego: [00:04:49] that’s a perfect that’s. That’s perfect. So brother juke, could you tell us a little bit about yourself and, maybe how you came to the Lord and how the Lord’s dealt with you and then how you, how the Lord led you to the [00:05:00] ministry and you take all the time.

[00:05:01] You need brother. We’re not rushing here. I have plenty of time if you have plenty of

[00:05:06] Jhun Esguerra: [00:05:06] time. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Louis. My life is, for me, it’s a colorful one when it comes to spirituality. Well, my full name actually sounds like Spanish. I am what it is year.

[00:05:22] Luis Urrego: [00:05:22] Yeah.

[00:05:24] Jhun Esguerra: [00:05:24] June is my nickname. When I, when I learned about my name, when I am aware, when I go to school and wondering why I have, I have a different name with others, the others are John.

[00:05:36] Mike. Yeah. Mark John, for me, it sounds like it’s a, it’s a different, it sounds unique. So what I’ve learned when you do in Spanish means little Johnny.

[00:05:53] Luis Urrego: [00:05:53] Right. Yeah, it sure does.

[00:05:57] Jhun Esguerra: [00:05:57] Yeah. Then I’ve learned that they have a

[00:06:00] [00:06:00] Luis Urrego: [00:06:00] bless his name.

[00:06:02] Jhun Esguerra: [00:06:02] John’s major Johnson, the Bible, John, the Baptist, John, the beloved, the lesson, the apostles love signifies love the only apostle that dies a natural death.

[00:06:13] So now I love my name

[00:06:21] Luis Urrego: [00:06:21] means war. Yeah. So, warring John, because you are in a battle brother.

[00:06:26] Jhun Esguerra: [00:06:26] Yeah. Good. Thank for making my name, unique,

[00:06:33] Luis Urrego: [00:06:33] more unique. Amen.

[00:06:35] Jhun Esguerra: [00:06:35] I am now 46 years old. I was called in the ministry. You know what, why I love the message, the message really applied things in my life that I don’t know. I don’t even imagine that I will be entering the ministry.

[00:07:00] [00:07:00] I have no idea. I have no theological background. I have no holiness background. I am just an ordinary typical teenager. Then this is a Catholic country. There wants me to enter into the seminary, you know, just a typical Catholic person that once. her grandchild could be good. Of course they understand that we’re thinking that, entering the seminary will draw us closer to that.

[00:07:33] I became a soccer Stemmler what’d you believe that? You know?

[00:07:37] Luis Urrego: [00:07:37] Yes. Yeah. The alter boys, right?

[00:07:40] Jhun Esguerra: [00:07:40] Yeah. And became a one.

[00:07:44] Luis Urrego: [00:07:44] Wow. Yeah. When you became an alter boy,

[00:07:48] Jhun Esguerra: [00:07:48] 30 years

[00:07:49] Luis Urrego: [00:07:49] old or 30 years old.

[00:07:51] Jhun Esguerra: [00:07:51] 13,

[00:07:52] Luis Urrego: [00:07:52] well, 13, 13. Okay. All right. Wow.

[00:07:56] Jhun Esguerra: [00:07:56] Because thinking that, that role at [00:08:00] the young age, I will be closer to that,

[00:08:02] Luis Urrego: [00:08:02] but

[00:08:03] Jhun Esguerra: [00:08:03] there is a seed in our heart.

[00:08:05] We know that that six, that actually, as young as I am unconsciously, I’m seeking the truth. but when I, when I have seen just like Martin movie, when I have seen how the other boys, after the mass, they will be drinking the wine. You know, they, they have this, even the leaders are corrupt when I share the place against anybody that I’ve seen it after the mass smoking.

[00:08:39] So I’m thinking, there is something wrong. Because my grandmother told me and my mother told me not to smoke the place after, after, after the mass smoking, there’s something wrong. You know what, when it’s strike me, if there is something wrong, I’m sure there is something right.

[00:09:00] [00:09:00] Luis Urrego: [00:09:00] Yeah. That’s a good

[00:09:02] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:02] point.

[00:09:03] Yeah. Well the verbatim said if there’s a fake better, then there’s the genuine

[00:09:08] Luis Urrego: [00:09:08] absolutely

[00:09:10] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:10] God for the fake, it means you just have to look for the

[00:09:13] Luis Urrego: [00:09:13] genuine.

[00:09:15] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:15] And we tried many, many, yeah.

[00:09:21] You know, the one that really God use is my mother, why she was sick at the

[00:09:29] Luis Urrego: [00:09:29] time.

[00:09:31] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:31] Imagine my mother has a, I think if I’m not mistaken, 13 major surgeries.

[00:09:38] Luis Urrego: [00:09:38] Wow. At that time, when, at that age, when you, when you were that age

[00:09:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:43] did, during those times, I think it’s eight or nine.

[00:09:47] Luis Urrego: [00:09:47] Okay. And that’s still a lot.

[00:09:51] Jhun Esguerra: [00:09:51] Yeah.

[00:09:52] Yeah. And God has many ways of calling us. He has a million ways deployed many groups. [00:10:00] The main purpose is for my proceedings. We left the Catholic faith because she was not here there, you know, a simple, thinking of a church goer. We tried, the charismatics. We tried the Castiles, you know, until one time.

[00:10:19]Luis Urrego: [00:10:19] a

[00:10:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:10:19] friend of my mother has introduced us to one minister is what we’re lacking value in which the pastor is  that was years ago, imagine. And, they conduct super home Bible study, no mass, no, no big gatherings. So it strikes me then that, a minister can visit a house, even though it’s not many.

[00:10:47] And of course a typical teenager with the mothers. Yes. You sit down there. I’ll just sit down. You listen there. I just listen with my shorts on, you know, without calling this with [00:11:00] my basketball Jersey. That’s my sports. Yeah. We played together. I think

[00:11:08] Luis Urrego: [00:11:08] we played together.

[00:11:10] Jhun Esguerra: [00:11:10] Yeah.

[00:11:12] Luis Urrego: [00:11:12] Yeah. Yes. I think, yes we did.

[00:11:14] We sure did. That’s right. Yeah.

[00:11:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:11:19] I want to know to make that story cut short. when I’ve heard the message and it’s striking me, all of my errors were exposed every time, the feature pitches, but you know, what’s the good thing I keep on coming back. Because what I’m getting at is right. I am wrong for me to encourage you to be closer to that.

[00:11:43] If you heard the truth, you say that is the truth. I am the, I am wrong.

[00:11:51] Then one day I was convicted just a simple youth. But yeah, [00:12:00] I ended up even a youth leader, brother. I am just one silent use of the coordinator. I told you. I’ve never imagined I would be called to the ministry. They pastor Nestor’s formula. You

[00:12:15] Luis Urrego: [00:12:15] know him? Yes. I know. Brother, brother nester.

[00:12:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:12:19] Yeah. So, I would not think of age. They are unbelievable believers, listening, thinking that serving God is just for the old

[00:12:29] Luis Urrego: [00:12:29] ones.

[00:12:31] Jhun Esguerra: [00:12:31] That’s a typical, thinking, you know what? It’s better to be earlier. I appreciated it because the earlier I received rise to this message, the earlier I applied it in my student, like I graduated, thank God.

[00:12:51] Not because we are rich, but because of the vision I have applied it in my corporate life. I [00:13:00] was working 17 years. I work.

[00:13:03] Luis Urrego: [00:13:03] Yeah.

[00:13:05] Jhun Esguerra: [00:13:05] And, I’ve applied it not to brag. This is true. God has blessed me with my corporate life. I was promoted three times because I’m good. Not because I am efficient. God made me one because I believe in the purpose.

[00:13:25] Luis Urrego: [00:13:25] Amen.

[00:13:26] Jhun Esguerra: [00:13:26] A goal is a shallow thing. There’s a goal, but there’s a higher thing. That is a purpose. That’s

[00:13:32] Luis Urrego: [00:13:32] a good point.

[00:13:33] Jhun Esguerra: [00:13:33] Yeah. Because all things will work together for good to those who are called according to the goal. Now, according to the purpose,

[00:13:42] Luis Urrego: [00:13:42] amen.

[00:13:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:13:43] Good job. I can support the ministry. I was with pasta Nestor then.

[00:13:49]that’s why I told you, in your introduction, I am pastoring for 15 years, but I pitching for 20 years as an associate. It’s more for me, [00:14:00] I can be just a, an associate because they family will be. But, I, we live in, in, in Metro Manila, you know that that’s the capital of the Philippines.

[00:14:19] Luis Urrego: [00:14:19] Correct?

[00:14:21] Jhun Esguerra: [00:14:21] We, we, I was blessed with my job and I wanted some solid assets.

[00:14:26] And for me to have a solid asset, I must purchase aerial

[00:14:30] Luis Urrego: [00:14:30] people.

[00:14:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:14:32] So I just brought from a brother and I cannot forget him because. He is instrumental for me to buy a house in lab at Columbia Laguna. Columbia is a province. It’s a countryside. Not for me to live there, here now. Not for me to live here. It’s just because I am used to.

[00:14:58] Yeah, I am used to,

[00:15:00] [00:14:59] Luis Urrego: [00:14:59] So this, this was strictly a, a business transaction. Yeah. At that time,

[00:15:09] Jhun Esguerra: [00:15:09] because my plan is I will listen to others and I will not implement no plan, no plan to live in a, in an area without morals. Then now it’s commercialized you in the park. Yeah. The traffic is not because of cars, but because of the, of the animals crossing the street, you know,

[00:15:38] but we, my wife and I, and we’d nailed this. It still. Yeah. May the youngest is not yet born.

[00:15:48] Luis Urrego: [00:15:48] Okay.

[00:15:49] Jhun Esguerra: [00:15:49] Yeah, we had encountered a big problem that we are forced to live in that house. Yeah. Just [00:16:00] to make that story short, we have a major problem that our, the best solution is okay. We’ll go to the countries.

[00:16:12] Yeah, because my work is in Manila. I just have to travel and the day for us to save, maybe I will not, these are the plans. I will not go home. Maybe I will have an overnight, some place to save gasoline, you know, but you know, it never happened. God has provided for me to go home every day

[00:16:37] Luis Urrego: [00:16:37] that have provided

[00:16:38] Jhun Esguerra: [00:16:38] a vehicle for me to go home everyday.

[00:16:41] God has provided everything, not loving that there will be a ministry.

[00:16:51] Luis Urrego: [00:16:51] Interesting.

[00:16:52] Jhun Esguerra: [00:16:52] Yeah. That’s that’s why just like Joseph during the time that he was falsely [00:17:00] accused during the pen that he was asleep. During the time that he was accused again during the time that he is in prison without, without any scene at the end, he seen the port

[00:17:17] Luis Urrego: [00:17:17] that’s right.

[00:17:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:17:19] Yeah. I am just conducting Bible studies here because that is the, that is the thing that I’ve started.

[00:17:28] You know, but at the nation, the ministry, you will not forget how you started. And most of the parents, how you started, you will do it. Also conducted home Bible studies. My church is in Manila. During some days we have to travel also. Okay.

[00:17:46] Luis Urrego: [00:17:46] That was back at brother nesters. Yeah.

[00:17:49] Jhun Esguerra: [00:17:49] I live in the countryside

[00:17:50] Luis Urrego: [00:17:50] now.

[00:17:51] Right.

[00:17:52] Jhun Esguerra: [00:17:52] Some days we have to travel because that is my home church. I was, good there. I, I was fed [00:18:00] there. Yeah. So I, I have this gratitude with the ministry and, one time there was a church here, also a message church. That, I, ask for the permission to pursue person who will just go to this church for the meantime, the challenge is all the, the people that I conducted Bible study, they are now substantially number.

[00:18:34] I get to bring them to Manila. I could show her the expense, but it will not last, you know, when I sit  of course, see some ministers has discernment. You know what he said, why not start your own? Of course he says, if there is a gift,

[00:19:00] [00:19:00] Luis Urrego: [00:19:00] right.

[00:19:02] Jhun Esguerra: [00:19:02] Actually I’ll go there. I have no plans of being a pastor.

[00:19:10] You know what you said, you blunted and others.

[00:19:18] This is the one drawback of not listening to your elders. Yeah.

[00:19:27] Luis Urrego: [00:19:27] Brother, James, sorry to interrupt. But how old were you at the time when the Bible study started there in, in, in Laguna. How old were you at the time? When the, when you started Bible studies there in Laguna. Okay. Yeah. You were, you were young, you were married at the time, right?

[00:19:48] Jhun Esguerra: [00:19:48] Yeah. I met her. I was married 55 years old. Yeah. So, during the time then they are asking, [00:20:00] okay, I’ll induce you to one church. I’ll go with you there to make the good story. Cut short. It’s not the will of God, the King, the problem with the owner of that. And I am not the pastor. I have no say. You know what, when I approached her necessarily again, she just smiled.

[00:20:17] I pulled you.

[00:20:20] Luis Urrego: [00:20:20] Yeah.

[00:20:20] Jhun Esguerra: [00:20:20] And I have, I have to make a tough decision just like Jonah running away from the presence of God, just like Moses running away from the presence of that.

[00:20:33] Luis Urrego: [00:20:33] Yeah.

[00:20:34] Jhun Esguerra: [00:20:34] So that is no, the history of me, we just rented a little house. Just a little house near

[00:20:41] Luis Urrego: [00:20:41] our

[00:20:42] Jhun Esguerra: [00:20:42] residents. we never thought that, God will call many believers here.

[00:20:51] Transfer. Yeah. Then my youngest came out

[00:20:56] Luis Urrego: [00:20:56] the youngest daughter.

[00:20:57] Jhun Esguerra: [00:20:57] Yeah, my youngest daughter. [00:21:00] She was the first. Maybe dedicated in the church.

[00:21:05] Luis Urrego: [00:21:05] Oh, okay. I see. Actually

[00:21:08] Jhun Esguerra: [00:21:08] the ministry is 15 years this coming November.

[00:21:12] Luis Urrego: [00:21:12] Okay. Yeah.

[00:21:15] Jhun Esguerra: [00:21:15] And, the birth date of my youngest daughter is December 21. Yeah. So my youngest daughter is the same age at the church.

[00:21:26] Luis Urrego: [00:21:26] Wow. So it was much younger when I’ve met you. When I first met you in 2013, it was much younger than

[00:21:33] Jhun Esguerra: [00:21:33] yeah. Yeah. He was much younger than they are. They are with me. Of course they can a pitch, but, They are very supportive. You know, when you have you, when you, when you have shown a good example in the ministry, it’s not hard for the, for the children to be involved because they have seen the benefits.

[00:21:54] Of course, there are some struggles, but with the word of the ministries, my prayer [00:22:00] is for me, we got up to my family, of course, and it will go down just like arrow after the hem of the skirt. That’s the way the body moves. I think

[00:22:13] Luis Urrego: [00:22:13] now

[00:22:14] Jhun Esguerra: [00:22:14] 15 years, very Lewis without preaches locally. And, mission works also with the Southeast Asian.

[00:22:24] Luis Urrego: [00:22:24] I never thought

[00:22:27] Jhun Esguerra: [00:22:27] it’s a funny thing. one time when I met my friends again, And they know that I am the pastor already. They know, they know me before I became a pastor. You know, the things of the teenage, you know what they said, you’re not fit. You don’t look like, well, you don’t look like a pastor. Pasta should look like, I’m curious.

[00:22:55] I don’t look like one. I am the fifth. Of course we are just [00:23:00] a. Yeah, just have moments.

[00:23:05] Okay. I

[00:23:06] Luis Urrego: [00:23:06] think it’s because you look so young brother, June, you don’t look, you don’t look like you’re 46 years old. I mean, you’re just, you’re you’re only six years older than me.

[00:23:20] Jhun Esguerra: [00:23:20] Maybe, maybe. Yeah.

[00:23:22] Luis Urrego: [00:23:22] It’s a good, it’s a good Filipino trait. Filipinos seem to be that way. They don’t seem to age.

[00:23:30] Jhun Esguerra: [00:23:30] Yeah. Because you always smell better

[00:23:35] even in store and we can smile.

[00:23:37]Luis Urrego: [00:23:37] I believe that I’ve seen it. I know. I know. That’s how it is.

[00:23:41] Jhun Esguerra: [00:23:41] Yeah. Maybe that’s one thing and thank God now my kids are grown up. I don’t even realize the church has grown up as well. The ministry has grown up very aggressive, but you know, whenever there is, there is, the grace of God is [00:24:00] gearing us up and telling all the elders in the end, the workers for us to be safe.

[00:24:07] If God does move you one, you decrease yourself place.

[00:24:16] Luis Urrego: [00:24:16] Amen

[00:24:17] Jhun Esguerra: [00:24:17] because you all got, this will always be increasing. We must decrease. I’m not putting it in my mind. I’m putting it in action. They’ve got us. Let’s ask the support position.

[00:24:29] Luis Urrego: [00:24:29] That’s right. Yeah, that’s right.

[00:24:33] Jhun Esguerra: [00:24:33] Yeah,

[00:24:34] Luis Urrego: [00:24:34] that’s excellent brother, June, that, that, that, how God, if God really wants you to do a work, and of course I’ve experienced this in my life, if God really wants you to do the work, the, the, I believe even brother Bram said this to gift opens for itself makes way for itself.

[00:24:52]and the opportunities will come. Because God has placed a gift there. And so how [00:25:00] many people, how many people do you have the dead attend your church right

[00:25:03] Jhun Esguerra: [00:25:03] now? If it is completely living all in the local church alone, it’s a 100, it can reach 100.

[00:25:10] Luis Urrego: [00:25:10] Okay. Yeah. That’s, that’s a pretty good size church

[00:25:14] Jhun Esguerra: [00:25:14] for a message church.

[00:25:17] Luis Urrego: [00:25:17] Yeah. Wow.

[00:25:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:25:19] So outreach. Yes. in the countryside, in the North and in the South as well. So yeah, so these, these are good things. I’ve never imagined. And never good at it, but God is good all the time.

[00:25:35] Luis Urrego: [00:25:35] Amen. Amen. Amen. That’s wonderful brother, June. That’s wonderful. Had you always been when you first started, have you always been in that building where you are now?

[00:25:46] Jhun Esguerra: [00:25:46] No, this is the, okay. I’ll call it. I forgot it. One, two, three, four. This is the fifth.

[00:25:54] Luis Urrego: [00:25:54] Wow. The fifth. Wow.

[00:25:56] Jhun Esguerra: [00:25:56] Wow. Grasper, because I’m always thinking this is [00:26:00] enough for us, but the church is growing in number and God provide, I believe.

[00:26:06] Luis Urrego: [00:26:06] Amen. Amen.

[00:26:08] Jhun Esguerra: [00:26:08] This for his sons and daughters, this is the fifth one have been

[00:26:11] Luis Urrego: [00:26:11] transferred

[00:26:13] Jhun Esguerra: [00:26:13] in this place.

[00:26:15] Luis Urrego: [00:26:15] Praise God. Good to, good to know. Good to know that the ministry is growing and God’s bringing in the ones that need to hear the word. How far is the is Laguna or where the church is located from Manila 50 kilometers? About how long does it take to get to Manila from there? Okay. I’m once

[00:26:38] Jhun Esguerra: [00:26:38] you know the traffic situation here.

[00:26:40] Luis Urrego: [00:26:40] Yeah. I know the traffic. Four hours. Okay. Two hours, my goodness, 50 kilometers in miles. Do you know right off the top of your head in miles, how much that’d be?

[00:26:59] Jhun Esguerra: [00:26:59] I, I’m [00:27:00] not sure I’m not good at that.

[00:27:05] Do you think

[00:27:06] Luis Urrego: [00:27:06] I’m converting right now on Google? It is it’s 31 miles.

[00:27:14] 30 in 31 miles brother, June, let’s say, I’m just thinking 31 miles here. You could, you could travel 31 miles within 20 minutes, 25 minutes, maybe 30 minutes at the most. That’s about that’s about my commute. To, to one way to our church where I, where I attended brother Samuel Dells, it’s, it’s 33 miles to get to get there.

[00:27:41] And it’s about 40 minutes to get there. So, yes. So that’s just to show the listeners, the ones that are listening to us from, from other parts of the world, outside of the, outside of the Philippines that, Traffic is terrible, terrible in, in, in, in the [00:28:00] Philippines. It’s just so much, it’s so much traffic.

[00:28:04] I’ve been to New York. I’ve been to other big cities. I live near Atlanta, Georgia. And the traffic is terrible, but I’ve never seen traffic as bad as, as Manila.

[00:28:18] Jhun Esguerra: [00:28:18] But for me, this, they say the traffic in the, in Manila is not a problem. It is a situation.

[00:28:27] Luis Urrego: [00:28:27] It’s a situation and you have to, and you have to just get, you just get used to it, right?

[00:28:36] Jhun Esguerra: [00:28:36] Yeah. We are used to it.

[00:28:38] Luis Urrego: [00:28:38] Yeah,

[00:28:40] Jhun Esguerra: [00:28:40] no traffic, no traffic.

[00:28:45] Luis Urrego: [00:28:45] And is that, is that traffic, is that in all hours of the day?

[00:28:50] Jhun Esguerra: [00:28:50] No, it’s in all ours after the pandemic.

[00:28:53] Luis Urrego: [00:28:53] Yeah. Wow.

[00:28:55] Jhun Esguerra: [00:28:55] Just Russia. Every hour is a rush or better.

[00:29:00] [00:29:00] Luis Urrego: [00:29:00] Every year, hours, Russia. And you know what, you know what brother, June, the first time I went to the Philippines and, I was traveling around and that was in 2012.

[00:29:08] When I first time, the first time I went, of course you hear a lot of people honking the horn people, people behind you honking the horn and the driver that you’re with you, you know, that he’s honking the horn at the person in front of them. Now here in the United States, That’s rude. It’s rude to, to sit there and just honk the horn constantly at the person in front of you.

[00:29:29] And I was actually, I was actually within myself in my human ways that was getting upset with the person behind. Why did they

[00:29:35] Jhun Esguerra: [00:29:35] keep honking?

[00:29:37] Luis Urrego: [00:29:37] But you realize that that’s just how it is. It’s it’s, it’s, it’s a normal way of way of life. Nobody gets upset at each other. It’s just how it is.

[00:29:46] Jhun Esguerra: [00:29:46] Yeah. If you can get the home, you’re not in Manila.

[00:29:52] Luis Urrego: [00:29:52] Amen. Amen, brother, June. That’s wonderful. how God is leading you and, and his lead led you to the, to the point where you are at [00:30:00] now. And I believe God has you there. And we see the purpose that, that, that God has you there. And it’s for those, Those souls that are there, that are there. And I believe God is bringing more, more souls in, into the kingdom, through your ministry.

[00:30:15] And we just thank God for that. I want to take a moment, brother, June, if it’s okay with you, just to, greet some of the, the people here, that they’re sending greetings here. I don’t know if you know this person audience. I notice right. Pastor

[00:30:29] Jhun Esguerra: [00:30:29] in many labs.

[00:30:30] Luis Urrego: [00:30:30] He’s a, what now? He’s a pastor in.

[00:30:33] Okay. He says, great pastor June. So God bless you, brother IDs. Good to have you here listening. let’s see brother, Jason Alejandro Martinez says, God bless you, my brother. I’m not sure if this is a brother in the Philippines or not, but

[00:30:51] Jhun Esguerra: [00:30:51] I don’t know.

[00:30:51] Luis Urrego: [00:30:51] He might, he might, he might be a brother from Latin America here on my part of the world.

[00:30:55] So God bless you, brother. Jason, it’s good to have you here with us. [00:31:00]

[00:31:03]sister neath mug. My guy is watching. He says,

[00:31:07] Jhun Esguerra: [00:31:07] she’s my mother.

[00:31:08] Luis Urrego: [00:31:08] That’s your mother. Oh, okay. She got connected. Well, God bless you, sister. Yeah. Is that her name? Neff.

[00:31:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:31:19] Neff. Yeah. Then Yetta marriage. That’s why personally, miss mugga.

[00:31:26] Luis Urrego: [00:31:26] Margot. Okay. Okay. Well, it’s good to have you here, sister Neth is good. It’s good to, to, just have you here watching with us.

[00:31:34] Hopefully some you’ll receive a blessing. This evening, this morning on your end brother,  says, good, good morning out. I said, God morning, but I’m sure he

[00:31:47] Jhun Esguerra: [00:31:47] better.

[00:31:49] Luis Urrego: [00:31:49] God bless you, brother or sister, my sec sacker bowl. She’s I believe she’s in Canada and she says Shalom. My brothers and sisters may God richly bless you.

[00:31:59] God [00:32:00] bless you, sister. My and it’s again is good to have you here listening once again. let’s greet, let’s see. Floor, floor Delisa. Yes. GSI. She says that a blessed day to both of you, my brother in Christ from brother, John’s say right believer. And bannering the truth province of Zambales Philippines strive hard to attain the goal of the Lord preach the gospel for the salvation of souls.

[00:32:27] More power. God is with us. Always. Amen. Amen. I believe that I believe that with all my heart, that’s a. That’s what we’ve got to do in this, our sister Fey bed. Yeah,

[00:32:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:32:43] my auntie

[00:32:44] Luis Urrego: [00:32:44] that’s your auntie. Wow.

[00:32:46] Jhun Esguerra: [00:32:46] You leave her in Canada.

[00:32:48] Luis Urrego: [00:32:48] Oh, okay. Okay.

[00:32:50] Jhun Esguerra: [00:32:50] Under pastor John Duncan,

[00:32:52] Luis Urrego: [00:32:52] really? They’re not. Or then I may, I may know her cause I mean, firstly, brother John echo was my, it [00:33:00] was my wife’s pastor.

[00:33:01] Jhun Esguerra: [00:33:01] She knows you. She knows you

[00:33:04] Luis Urrego: [00:33:04] maybe. Okay. All right. Well, God bless. She says, she’s watching from California.

[00:33:14] Jhun Esguerra: [00:33:14] They love their home.

[00:33:19] Yeah. She’s my auntie from California as

[00:33:25] Luis Urrego: [00:33:25] well. The Lord praise the Lord. Well, it’s good to have you here, sister, lay aunties, and, good to have you watching here and hopefully that you would be blessed today. I’m in California right now. They are three hours behind from us. So it is five 10 over there at 5:10 PM right now,

[00:33:45] Jhun Esguerra: [00:33:45] NPM.

[00:33:46] Luis Urrego: [00:33:46] Okay. Yes. All right. Well, brother, June. so let’s, let’s just talk about, if, if we could, I mean, we can get this going here if you want to. why don’t we just talk a little bit about the word. [00:34:00] So, I know that, that is what the word is, is really what, every child of God desires. And, and if you’re not in the word, as you say, you’re a child of God, then maybe you, you’re not a child.

[00:34:14] And I believe. I believe that that person with the Holy ghost will feed on the word. So brother, brother, gene, if what, what is it that you think, today? well, let, let, let me ask you this. First of all, what is the message of the hour? Oh,

[00:34:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:34:32] with question

[00:34:33] Luis Urrego: [00:34:33] butter. Yes. For

[00:34:35] Jhun Esguerra: [00:34:35] me, the message of the hour is seafood in this system,

[00:34:39] Luis Urrego: [00:34:39] food in due season,

[00:34:42] Jhun Esguerra: [00:34:42] the food in our everyday lives.

[00:34:48] Luis Urrego: [00:34:48] Hey man,

[00:34:49] Jhun Esguerra: [00:34:49] maybe some listeners are asking, what is the message of the hour? Is this different from the Bible? What is it that we have the Bible and we have the message of the hour? Well, the message is our, is the Bible [00:35:00] explain.

[00:35:00] Luis Urrego: [00:35:00] Amen. It’s not

[00:35:02] Jhun Esguerra: [00:35:02] another Bible.

[00:35:04] Luis Urrego: [00:35:04] That’s right.

[00:35:05] Jhun Esguerra: [00:35:05] Yeah. It’s a, it’s a Bible explain because, in our finite mind, we cannot understand the Bible.

[00:35:12] When we study in theological school, you will just have intellectual conception of it, but it’s not for me. The message of the hour is the food. I like food better. Louis,

[00:35:25] Luis Urrego: [00:35:25] other too. I don’t know who doesn’t

[00:35:29] Jhun Esguerra: [00:35:29] loving people.

[00:35:30] Luis Urrego: [00:35:30] Absolutely.

[00:35:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:35:32] That’s the natural, but in the spiritual sense for me, I cannot live without the message because of the sea food that I can digest it in my age.

[00:35:42] Luis Urrego: [00:35:42] Amen.

[00:35:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:35:43] Yeah. Just like, just like the biome of Aidan. There’s a certain code in their day. This is the one that they must eat. This the one that they must not get. Yeah. And after the fall, they’re there. There’s another fool. Now [00:36:00] Aidan must, must, must, must, for Spire to produce food then after Noah there’s, there’s another set of food, just like in our age, we know God is dispense the Gentile age, the seven, the message of the algorithm for me.

[00:36:17] It’s the food that I can digest efficiently.

[00:36:20] Luis Urrego: [00:36:20] Amen.

[00:36:22] Jhun Esguerra: [00:36:22] The Lord said to John in the book.

[00:36:25] Luis Urrego: [00:36:25] Absolutely. That’s right in revelations, chapter 11, a 10, 10. Yeah.

[00:36:33] Jhun Esguerra: [00:36:33] But it’s a little book.

[00:36:37] Luis Urrego: [00:36:37] That’s right.

[00:36:38] Jhun Esguerra: [00:36:38] It means it’s a simple thing. A simple, right? Just

[00:36:42] like

[00:36:43] Luis Urrego: [00:36:43] amen.

[00:36:44] Jhun Esguerra: [00:36:44] God made it simple using a seventh grade docket. It doesn’t use the Martin Luther’s in our age, the jungles, this God has used a simple, a seven seven with buffet for gut.

[00:36:59] The show [00:37:00] that education is not required.

[00:37:03] Luis Urrego: [00:37:03] That’s right.

[00:37:04] Jhun Esguerra: [00:37:04] Yeah. That even the simplest mind, if he or she was called by God. He can eat. He or she can eat this message of the hour. It’s not the different Bible. It’s a Bible. Explain.

[00:37:18] Luis Urrego: [00:37:18] Amen. Amen. Yeah. So what would you say brother, June to those who, because I have, I haven’t heard a person say this.

[00:37:24] I’ve just heard people say this. That they’ll take, they’ll take the, they’ll say I’ll take, I’ll take the message. Because the message I see. They’ll say I’ll take the message over the Bible because this is the revelation of this, of the Bible. In other words, like it’s a competition.

[00:37:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:37:43] Yeah. That’s, that’s a hard thing.

[00:37:47] I agree with it without the Bible. There’s no message.

[00:37:51] Luis Urrego: [00:37:51] Hey man. That’s right.

[00:37:53] Jhun Esguerra: [00:37:53] Well, the others are saying the message is the absolute for me, the Bible is the absolute. [00:38:00] The message. Absolutely interpretation of the absence.

[00:38:03] Luis Urrego: [00:38:03] Amen. Right?

[00:38:06] Jhun Esguerra: [00:38:06] It is just like this. We are well versed in it in Matthew 25, there’s the oil and the umbrella

[00:38:15] Ben virgins. And it was said that the lump is the Bible and the oil. We can stage the message of the hour because the land without the oil, it will not just like.

[00:38:29] Luis Urrego: [00:38:29] Correct. Right.

[00:38:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:38:32] It’s just annoying.

[00:38:34] Luis Urrego: [00:38:34] That’s right.

[00:38:36] Jhun Esguerra: [00:38:36] It must go together to produce in life.

[00:38:38] Luis Urrego: [00:38:38] Amen.

[00:38:40] Jhun Esguerra: [00:38:40] It is the Bible with the oil when they are combined, not two different things, but the purpose is to give like then when you read the Bible theologically, it does not like.

[00:38:53] But when you read them, when you read the message and that message is also big recall. [00:39:00] Now it looks like between the West and the foolish spirit, Jean, the foolish Workday as a lump, which is the Bible, but the West Virginia has the luck and the oil.

[00:39:14] Luis Urrego: [00:39:14] Amen.

[00:39:15] Jhun Esguerra: [00:39:15] Yeah. So I disagree that you believe the message and you don’t believe the Bible, the basis of the message.

[00:39:21] The Bible,

[00:39:23] Luis Urrego: [00:39:23] correct?

[00:39:24] Jhun Esguerra: [00:39:24] Yeah, but our shed, my Bible became a new Bible. Absolutely.

[00:39:32] Luis Urrego: [00:39:32] No, it’s the same Bible. It just became new.

[00:39:37] Jhun Esguerra: [00:39:37] It just became you because it is now clearer.

[00:39:41] Luis Urrego: [00:39:41] Correct.

[00:39:42] Jhun Esguerra: [00:39:42] Our listeners message believers. there is no message without the Bible that is still the absolute.

[00:39:50] Luis Urrego: [00:39:50] Yeah. Amen.

[00:39:52] Jhun Esguerra: [00:39:52] We will be getting wrong with that thinking, but with the Bible and you receive the message of the hour, [00:40:00] then it will give the, like, this is it.

[00:40:05] I haven’t realized it before because the message.

[00:40:10] Luis Urrego: [00:40:10] Right.

[00:40:10] Jhun Esguerra: [00:40:10] You think it’s an Apple then? Because you read it’s a book. Read the message. It’s not an Apple where it’s not difficult. He’s biblical hippie shit in the Bible. Glass revelations.

[00:40:26] Luis Urrego: [00:40:26] Sure, absolutely.

[00:40:31] Jhun Esguerra: [00:40:31] Amen.

[00:40:31] Luis Urrego: [00:40:31] Well, and brother Branam said himself, and those who have heard having heard of who brother Branam is what he is, the prophet that God sent to us in this day.

[00:40:41] Amen. To restore all things, that were eaten by the, by, by the nominal churches, throughout the. The, the ages, God sent a restoration and this hour and needed to use a prophet in this hour, as, as mentioned in Malakal chapter four, you can read their revelations [00:41:00] 10, seven, Luke, Luke 17, 20 or 30, I believe.

[00:41:04] And, so it it’s there. It was prophesied. And so even to that prophet, the brother Branam here’s absolute was the word. And, but. He never strayed, no matter how much God was unveiling himself, himself to brother random, he never strayed back from the word. He was always biblical. It was always unveil in the word.

[00:41:27] It wasn’t unveiling a new thing. It was just shedding light to what was already there. Yeah, I

[00:41:32] Jhun Esguerra: [00:41:32] agree.

[00:41:33] Luis Urrego: [00:41:33] Amen.

[00:41:34] Jhun Esguerra: [00:41:34] Yeah. Welcome to balance it. We are not lifting any people. They say, Oh, you’re lifting that, that member about now we are not, Lord is the Lord.

[00:41:48] Luis Urrego: [00:41:48] Amen. But

[00:41:49] Jhun Esguerra: [00:41:49] he always used to say China, there are many men that why, [00:42:00] why you got this man?

[00:42:01] Why you want the car about to pitch to you? Not men. You

[00:42:06] Luis Urrego: [00:42:06] want the cat.

[00:42:08] Jhun Esguerra: [00:42:08] Yeah, of course you will use men because we are men.

[00:42:14] Luis Urrego: [00:42:14] That’s right.

[00:42:16] Jhun Esguerra: [00:42:16] Yeah. But of course that must be vindicated in butter. Venom’s mystery is vindicated. Amen. It doesn’t affect in my life. That’s all.

[00:42:28] Luis Urrego: [00:42:28] That’s right.

[00:42:30] Jhun Esguerra: [00:42:30] Yeah.

[00:42:31] Luis Urrego: [00:42:31] Brother, brother, June to me personally, to me, the message of the hour.

[00:42:38] Which just took me back to the word. It drawed me actually closer to the Lord. Jesus Christ. Yeah. More, more than when I was in the nominal church. Because it wasn’t about, put ons and it wasn’t about, it was about a reality of the word and, things, things that you had never understood [00:43:00] about the word became real to you because God, through the Holy spirit is revealing his word to you.

[00:43:05] And the first time I’ll tell you this, the first time I read brother Brandon. one of the messages I never had heard his voice before never had heard it, but I could tell so much humility. I could see so much humility in, in, in the way he would talk and the things that he would say. And then when I got to hear his voice, It was, I was able to confirm to me, he hit the, his humility and, and how so he, Christ just, just came out from the things that he would say, you know, they would even say that when he would get up from the, in the, in the podium and he’d say, good morning friends, or good evening friends, they say that the presence of the yeah, Lord was just there.

[00:43:47]so, A third. I truly believe that. Like you said, it’s not about a man. This is about Jesus Christ. The man that’s the man that we’re talking about. Cause it’s supposed, the message is supposed to draw us not to the [00:44:00] prophet, but to the message that the profit center, what do you think about that? Yeah, I

[00:44:05] Jhun Esguerra: [00:44:05] agree with it better because I’m just like in a bad mood, gender who identified Christ.

[00:44:16] Engender, but this time it is only gender, but

[00:44:20] Luis Urrego: [00:44:20] that’s right.

[00:44:21] Jhun Esguerra: [00:44:21] The followers of the Messiah will lead just the about, is to identify who is the Messiah, when the message discuss yourself was introduced, then John, the Baptist was out of the scene. He was in prison. Yeah, because there’s the purpose of John the Baptist.

[00:44:39] Luis Urrego: [00:44:39] Amen

[00:44:40] Jhun Esguerra: [00:44:40] as he must increase, I must decrease.

[00:44:42] Luis Urrego: [00:44:42] That’s what he said.

[00:44:44] Jhun Esguerra: [00:44:44] All the ministers that are listening. I am. I am. I am. Maybe not that season for me.

[00:44:51] I am a successful minister. If I have introduced to the person that me,

[00:45:00] [00:44:59] me, I’m afraid of. It’s not been

[00:45:05] Luis Urrego: [00:45:05] absolutely.

[00:45:07] Jhun Esguerra: [00:45:07] But if I have seen Jesus Christ know, I have introduced Jesus Christ to the person and that person became a blessing because of this, then I can say, I am a successful minister.

[00:45:20] Luis Urrego: [00:45:20] Amen. Amen. Well, Paul said in the word that we preach, not ourselves, but Christ. And so that’s what we’re supposed to do, you know, be leery of somebody that you feel that they’re preaching about themselves.

[00:45:34] Yeah. You can’t trust the person that way you can’t trust that type of preacher, but he’s the one who deserves all the honor and glory. And that’s our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Yeah,

[00:45:44] Jhun Esguerra: [00:45:44] that’s the purpose of the ministry. And I worked the way mean it that way, where the ministry is blessed, I must admit it is growing and I ended up thinking of it, but it’s it’s growing, but what purpose I have for [00:46:00] you to see Christ

[00:46:05] in this program? So all those what chain we can see question.

[00:46:11] Luis Urrego: [00:46:11] Amen brother, brother, June. We know that that, that in this hour, there’s a lot of, unbelief creeping in a lot of people who really, did not, they, they received the message, but they received the message and they’re up here and then it never, it never came down here.

[00:46:32] So they, they get excited about it at first, And, and, and they, and they feel good and, and they, they feel, and I believe God gives, give, give them, give a revelation. I mean, but, but, but then they don’t move on with Christ. And then what happens, what I noticed is that they people start getting bored with the message.

[00:46:54] And then that’s when you start giving way. Two. Well, I wonder if the

[00:46:59] Jhun Esguerra: [00:46:59] profit [00:47:00] was

[00:47:00] Luis Urrego: [00:47:00] correct, here was the profit correct here. And then you start because you start getting bored with it. It’s become so common to you. Now, you, your unbelief starts creeping in and then we see now what’s happening. People just leaving, leaving the message.

[00:47:18]what do you say about that brother?

[00:47:19] Jhun Esguerra: [00:47:19] June? You have an access point better. This is one challenge in the message movement. The message. The message is clear message changes lives,

[00:47:35] Luis Urrego: [00:47:35] and that’s right.

[00:47:36] Jhun Esguerra: [00:47:36] How will you be bored when God is revealing something everyday?

[00:47:43] Luis Urrego: [00:47:43] How are you, man?

[00:47:46] Jhun Esguerra: [00:47:46] Well, you need to get more if you’re famous intellectual. Yeah, it is the way how you approached the message. That’s why? Just like what I said [00:48:00] earlier, the message for me is that, you know what, every day I’m excited.

[00:48:03] What’s the food in the house.

[00:48:09] I just ask my wife, if I’m outside, what’s our food. I’m excited.

[00:48:14] Luis Urrego: [00:48:14] That’s good. That’s good

[00:48:21] Jhun Esguerra: [00:48:21] for tomorrow. Yeah. So that’s the way I see the message for me is if you get bodied eating you’ll die.

[00:48:35] Luis Urrego: [00:48:35] I like that analogy, brother, brother, June. That’s really good. It’s the same food that you’ve been eating. Maybe even since you were a little kid, a little boy, but it, but it’s, it’s, what’s sustaining you all the way until you get older.

[00:48:49] Jhun Esguerra: [00:48:49] Yeah. That’s makes, makes it butter. Yeah, because now I will eat. What’s the food mom.

[00:48:55] What’s a good, I, I called my wife. It’s like this, like this. Oh, [00:49:00] good.

[00:49:00] Luis Urrego: [00:49:00] Yeah, yeah,

[00:49:04] Jhun Esguerra: [00:49:04] yeah. At the same table, the puppet is the table and the same table that I would be excited to get to them. That’s right. One believer will get worse for me, but the wish, if you get bored with this message, you have not seen Christ.

[00:49:23] Minister, maybe you just have seen the group maybe because you’re in a certain group. Yeah. The important thing in receiving the message is for you to see Christ, because if you’re on the same place, you will be excited every day.

[00:49:37] Luis Urrego: [00:49:37] Amen. Amen. I believe that with all my heart again, is what we were talking about.

[00:49:46] But as the word is open and to you more and more, even to the prophet, when the word opened up to him, after the seals were open to him, he said the Bible became a brand new book to him.

[00:49:56] Jhun Esguerra: [00:49:56] Yeah. And that’s exciting. Every time that we have new, if I have [00:50:00] new shoes, I will wear it every day.

[00:50:05] Yeah. My wife knows that if I have something new, I will wear it every day because it’s you

[00:50:11] Luis Urrego: [00:50:11] right.

[00:50:15] Jhun Esguerra: [00:50:15] Yes, the faithfulness of God this year, every morning, it’s the same Bible. It’s the same message, but I cannot explain it better. I don’t understand a believer. Genuine believer will get more.

[00:50:33] Luis Urrego: [00:50:33] I don’t know where the June, every time I open up the scriptures and every time I open up a book and read a message or listen to one, I get something out of it. Yeah. And I may have read that chapter of, of, of that, of the Bible many times. And every time I read it, I get something out of it. And it’s the way you approach it because you hit something very key.

[00:50:56] It’s the way you approach it.

[00:50:58] Jhun Esguerra: [00:50:58] That’s the way [00:51:00] you’d approach it intellectually. When you say, Oh, I read that before you’re finished.

[00:51:09] Because God got some way of revealing himself to the world. Actually the word press. It’s a person.

[00:51:19] Luis Urrego: [00:51:19] Amen. Amen.

[00:51:21] Jhun Esguerra: [00:51:21] He’s her husband, but I cannot imagine for 21 years, my wife is still excited to be with me. I work with get excited to go out with me. My wife is still excited to see my face when she caught something.

[00:51:41] And that’s every day it’s a relationship.

[00:51:46] Luis Urrego: [00:51:46] Amen.

[00:51:47] Jhun Esguerra: [00:51:47] Yeah,

[00:51:50] Luis Urrego: [00:51:50] that’s exactly right. Our relationship brother, brother, June, you just, you hit the nail right on the head. It’s a relationship and yeah. I feel in [00:52:00] this hour that that’s what people are lacking now regarding with, with young people where the June, do you feel that that is what’s lacking, eh, with young people because young people, especially that they’ve, this is all they know.

[00:52:12] They w they were born in the messages and they’ve grown up in the message, but the message is not in them. And that’s the, that’s what makes the difference.

[00:52:23] Jhun Esguerra: [00:52:23] You, you hit the right question and that is timely. You know, there come a time in a church. Now the young people are now almost half of the church when they have this offering, half of the congregation will go to the state because they are in the message.

[00:52:44] But the challenge is what is the real experience of this young people in the message, especially those ones who grew up with it.

[00:52:56] Okay. I’ll just give an example. I’ll just use my family [00:53:00] in approaching this. I cannot, I cannot pitch this. If I have an experience you may understand will be useful. Am I right? My youngest is 15 years old. They are not growing. They are now. They are now have their social lives with their classmates. You know, they have a social life inside the church.

[00:53:25] They will have a social life outside plus the social media, but Lewis, we haven’t got this in our family.

[00:53:33] Luis Urrego: [00:53:33] That’s right. That’s right.

[00:53:35] Jhun Esguerra: [00:53:35] Show me the, now I’ll say great impact in the lives every day.

[00:53:41] Luis Urrego: [00:53:41] Okay.

[00:53:42] Jhun Esguerra: [00:53:42] The challenge is for the parents. They have this expectation that this student has grown in a message.

[00:53:52] They must do this and do them. And one day the parents will be frustrated. What they will say. You grew up [00:54:00] in a message when you did that, because it is not an assurance that they grew up in the message.

[00:54:05] Luis Urrego: [00:54:05] Amen.

[00:54:08] Jhun Esguerra: [00:54:08] You know what I’m telling my children? You know, kids, I’m your father now I’ve prayed for you before, before they were born.

[00:54:24] I prayed for them at the end with me in, in glory. I pray that all the children that will go out in my, in my wife’s womb is right. I claimed it. That’s why, you know, the church is the Pokemon one message at the front.

[00:54:46] Yeah. The challenge of feeding a young believer today will depend on the parents on how they present the message. I call [00:55:00] them, you know, kids. I can teach you the Bible. I can teach you the message. You can hear me everyday, but you must be born again.

[00:55:07] Luis Urrego: [00:55:07] That’s right. Amen.

[00:55:10] Jhun Esguerra: [00:55:10] It’s not an assurance that your father is a password that you will go to the doctor.

[00:55:14] You must be born again.

[00:55:16] Luis Urrego: [00:55:16] Amen. Amen. Yeah. That’s the word?

[00:55:20] Jhun Esguerra: [00:55:20] I can guide you with a proper closing. I can guide you with the proper hair. I can guide you, but one day you will do this because you are born again. Not because I’m telling you this.

[00:55:34] Luis Urrego: [00:55:34] Amen,

[00:55:35] Jhun Esguerra: [00:55:35] because they will do some things that maybe they will say, Oh, it’s a pastor’s government where they are doing that. I don’t mind it. I want you to go through the process. I don’t mind my ministry. I mind your soul.

[00:55:49] Luis Urrego: [00:55:49] Right.

[00:55:50] Jhun Esguerra: [00:55:50] What is ministry? If my children were lost?

[00:55:54] Luis Urrego: [00:55:54] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:55:57] Jhun Esguerra: [00:55:57] My is my first church.

[00:56:02] [00:56:00] Luis Urrego: [00:56:02] Very good

[00:56:02] Jhun Esguerra: [00:56:02] point. I just told them be open to me. It is me that can understand all your weaknesses. Just don’t be open if you did something, be open to me because one thing that’s why the youth are, are astray because they are afraid of their parents because they have a certain standard that is expected and they cannot do it.

[00:56:29] It’s reality. They are in the process.

[00:56:32] Luis Urrego: [00:56:32] Right,

[00:56:34] Jhun Esguerra: [00:56:34] but I’m realistic with you, but maybe some will not accept this spot, but I am a realistic one. I don’t want a fake, I want genuine go through a hard process. I would just trust the process if the process is right, the end, the end point is

[00:56:54] Luis Urrego: [00:56:54] that’s right. Yeah, totally agree.

[00:56:58] Because brother journey as [00:57:00] parents, and I’m glad that you bring this up as parents, you can only lead your child or your children up to a certain point. You are there. Holy spirit, up to a certain point until they can really get the Holy spirit, then their true spirit and their soul.

[00:57:18] Jhun Esguerra: [00:57:18] Holy spirit.

[00:57:19] Luis Urrego: [00:57:19] Right.

[00:57:20] Jhun Esguerra: [00:57:20] The Holy spirit,

[00:57:22] Luis Urrego: [00:57:22] but we are not the Holy spirit. And you will know that as soon as your, your daughter or your son turned 12, 13, 14 years old, one day, when they start talking back to you and said, well, what about this? What they start questioning things, then you realize, Oh, wait, I’m not their Holy spirit anymore.

[00:57:43] Jhun Esguerra: [00:57:43] That’s a hard, part of the age, right? Yeah. And that will indicate you don’t brother to the parents now, because you’ve mentioned it. What do we mean by applying the book in, but it’s only saying that [00:58:00] I led the token. Well, you know what, what I’ve noticed in my family, if you have shown a good example to your children, it’s not hard for them to follow.

[00:58:15] Luis Urrego: [00:58:15] Hey, man,

[00:58:17] Jhun Esguerra: [00:58:17] the hard thing is you will pitch them the right thing and they’re seeing another thing. It will, it will give competition.

[00:58:26] Luis Urrego: [00:58:26] Absolutely brother,

[00:58:27] Jhun Esguerra: [00:58:27] Jerry, as a parent, I must practice what I preach, even without me saying they will follow what they see.

[00:58:37] Luis Urrego: [00:58:37] Correct.

[00:58:40] Jhun Esguerra: [00:58:40] Because sometimes the problem with the message, especially if you’re just showing off, you will tell this, or we do this, do that, do this, do that.

[00:58:48] But the children are, are, are seeing another thing.

[00:58:55] Yeah. As a parent, I tell it to the parents. If you were to apply the book and [00:59:00] show them the message by your lives not make the words only. Absolutely. That way you’ve applied because the token is the blood and the blood is the life.

[00:59:11] Luis Urrego: [00:59:11] That’s right. Amen.

[00:59:15] Jhun Esguerra: [00:59:15] Yeah, by the light that’s way better by them. I’ve mentioned parental delinquent,

[00:59:21] Luis Urrego: [00:59:21] right?

[00:59:22] Jhun Esguerra: [00:59:22] Okay. You have veered in the wrong way. You’re very strict with the miss age. Some, some of the parents are very strict, not realizing that the children are undergoing purses.

[00:59:34] Luis Urrego: [00:59:34] Yep.

[00:59:36] Jhun Esguerra: [00:59:36] The children, your, your neighbor Mo the parents must understand the children. The way they are in the process and help them not compromising.

[00:59:46] You will not compromise you help them be applying the book,

[00:59:52] Luis Urrego: [00:59:52] correct? Amen. No brother, June. I wholeheartedly agree with you on that [01:00:00] because that’s how it should be. And I even think, I even feel, I believe that. That’s throughout the years, that’s what it’s been given to, to the young people and to the children is, is the do’s and don’ts of the message.

[01:00:15] And no life be in display

[01:00:20] it, do this, do that, do that. At least you look like a Christian,

[01:00:28] Jhun Esguerra: [01:00:28] but the insight it’s not regenerating.

[01:00:30] Luis Urrego: [01:00:30] But it’s not then. And that’s the point because did the regeneration should be from the inside out.

[01:00:37] Jhun Esguerra: [01:00:37] Yeah. And what’s the hard thing. Butter Lewis. The parents will get frustrated.

[01:00:42] Luis Urrego: [01:00:42] Amen. That’s right. Yep.

[01:00:47] Jhun Esguerra: [01:00:47] Instead of the other standard, your child you’ll get frustrated,

[01:00:51] Luis Urrego: [01:00:51] get frustrated and then it will, it will become a bigger thing, stress.

[01:00:57] And then you say, Lord, I thought I was doing the [01:01:00] right thing.

[01:01:00] Jhun Esguerra: [01:01:00] Yeah,

[01:01:02] Luis Urrego: [01:01:02] yeah.

[01:01:03] Jhun Esguerra: [01:01:03] Rolling approach. Well, I say that is just me. Because I’m after the line, because if you have the life, you don’t, you don’t need a list of this and you don’t need the list.

[01:01:15] Luis Urrego: [01:01:15] That’s exactly right.

[01:01:19] That’s right. That’s right. Brother, brother. our pastor, brother Dale. He says, he says, I, I, he says, I don’t want you to, to, to be a good person. I want you to get born again. You come to church, that’s fine. Be a good person. But while we’re after, eh, you know, is for you to be born again, because I know that when you’re born again, it’ll take care of all those things that you’re struggling with.

[01:01:44] Jhun Esguerra: [01:01:44] You both need the list

[01:01:46] Luis Urrego: [01:01:46] and you don’t need the list.

[01:01:48] Jhun Esguerra: [01:01:48] You just come up. That’s just me.

[01:01:51] Luis Urrego: [01:01:51] No, that’s excellent. Brother, June. I so wholeheartedly agree with you. I think that that’s the right approach and I think more, [01:02:00] more, pastors and ministers should, should, should take that approach. I believe. you know, as, as you feel led, as you feel led, definitely, but, I think you will receive a better results.

[01:02:11] I think when, when, when you, when you, when you, when you step back and you, and you stop trying to do the thing, you know, hammer it your own way and just say, Lord there in your hands, you do with them as you

[01:02:25] Jhun Esguerra: [01:02:25] please. Yeah. That’s, that’s the proper way for me.

[01:02:31] Luis Urrego: [01:02:31] Amen. Amen brother, June. before we continue, I just want to just want to summit, many comments have come in and, just want to maybe not read all of them, but just, just, just a few of them here and, my, my wife, Christine, she says, hello, Tita fair.

[01:02:47] Great to see you here.

[01:02:48] Jhun Esguerra: [01:02:48] So

[01:02:51] Luis Urrego: [01:02:51] she’s going to have to tell me exactly who that, who she is there in, in, in, in, in, in Toronto, Canada. I can’t remember. [01:03:00] I can’t remember who that is. I can’t remember who that is, but anyways, let’s see sister Doris on Fido. She says, Hey man, we need our spiritual food everyday.

[01:03:08] God blessed to both,

[01:03:10]Jhun Esguerra: [01:03:10] one cupboard in our church.

[01:03:13] Luis Urrego: [01:03:13] Yeah. Okay, good to have you here, sister doors. God bless you. Amen sister, my sack of bows. All the cable says amen and amen. She says a lot of amens here. Sister FES tells my wife, hello, Christine. So they obviously they know each other.

[01:03:33] Okay. Amen. A brother or sister, Troy Helene, says Shalom. Pastor Judas. Garrett got blessed to both of you. God bless you, sister Rosaline. Good, good to have you here with us. Praise the Lord. Amen. Amen. Sister. Maya says Jesus Christ revealed right through the Bible. That’s right. That’s right. Amen. That’s exactly right.

[01:03:59][01:04:00] let’s see here, sister net says a man. That’s your mom? Yeah, he’s got a brother, brother, Chris or sister Chris  it says, amen.

[01:04:13] Jhun Esguerra: [01:04:13] That’s one of the,

[01:04:16] Luis Urrego: [01:04:16] one of the deacons. Okay. All right. Good to have you here, brother. God bless you. Let’s see, just coming through here. let’s see. Sister layers has food has always been his favorite since birth.

[01:04:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:04:32] Yeah.

[01:04:35] Luis Urrego: [01:04:35] Or the June. You know what I remember when we first met there in Kavita, I remember that you would tell me and, that you like to eat. And, and I remember it. I think even eating with you and how, how much you enjoyed it. I mean, it was a, that was a big deal to you.

[01:04:51] Jhun Esguerra: [01:04:51] Say enjoy the message of the hour.

[01:04:53] It’s a food to

[01:04:54] Luis Urrego: [01:04:54] me,

[01:04:58] Jhun Esguerra: [01:04:58] always happy.

[01:05:00] [01:05:00] Luis Urrego: [01:05:00] Amen. The natural types, the spiritual,

[01:05:03] Jhun Esguerra: [01:05:03] yeah. That’s the way. A

[01:05:06] Luis Urrego: [01:05:06] member of the little solar says shell lumber Lewis. Again, I can see you, your ministry. I’m happy for ministry. I’m always pray for you and your family and ministry. God bless you, brother, June. God bless your brother Lito. Amen. Good to have you here with us for the liter praise God.

[01:05:21]and let’s see, April Bo Bunco Dean and praise God. Hey man, stay a blessing. God bless you both.

[01:05:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:05:32] In the, in this church.

[01:05:34] Luis Urrego: [01:05:34] Okay. Okay. They are, they are, we, we got quite a few people watching right now, actually. So, God bless you, sister. April’s good to have you here with us. Praise God. Amen brother, June.

[01:05:49] Well, what’s, what’s wonderful brother, Judah. again, I said, I said, I wholeheartedly agree with you and, and it all boils down to Berta, June it bowls down to, having the new [01:06:00] birth and, to, to you brother, June, what do you think the new birth is? And why is it important to have it?

[01:06:08] Jhun Esguerra: [01:06:08] Yeah. For me just like WELBRO bottom, always types.

[01:06:14] The natural good is spiritual for, for everybody to understand

[01:06:21] new birth in a spiritual sense is just as important as the physical birth, because birth is expressing a new, like if there is a bro, everybody’s excited. Yeah. If there’s a baby with a sport, everybody will look at the, at the, at the bed or the VB skill. There’s always an excitement, a new thing that will come out.

[01:06:51] You birth spiritually is needed for us because the new birth, of course we have physical burdens message. Believe us, you know, this, our [01:07:00] first birth is not the perfect wheel of death. We are born in sin.

[01:07:04] Luis Urrego: [01:07:04] Correct? Amen.

[01:07:06] Jhun Esguerra: [01:07:06] That’s why without the new birth, there is no way for us, but to sin even we don’t like it.

[01:07:13] Luis Urrego: [01:07:13] It’s our nature.

[01:07:14] Jhun Esguerra: [01:07:14] Yeah. It’s our nature. No matter how many religions you had, no matter how you know your Bible, no matter how you append the church, no matter how many youth comes you will have. If there is new birth, your direction will be dead because you are just enjoying the physical burden. Well, the new birth will expire the physical birth.

[01:07:38] Not meaning not that you will be dead, but the new birth will overcome. We are the nature. That’s why it is. It’s still like

[01:07:49] Luis Urrego: [01:07:49] email

[01:07:50] Jhun Esguerra: [01:07:50] also has the process. Well, the physical birth is a process. It also has a process justification sanctification, but this is the Holy ghost. [01:08:00] That is why in the earlier discussion that we have in my, in maturity that I tell him that you must be born again.

[01:08:08] Luis Urrego: [01:08:08] Amen.

[01:08:09] Jhun Esguerra: [01:08:09] Yes, I am at peace. If you’re born again, I don’t have to burn . I believe in myself that it is not well. But June, I know the sermon series. I know the seven church. It just, it is not an assurance that you have any of this.

[01:08:26] Luis Urrego: [01:08:26] No,

[01:08:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:08:27] no,

[01:08:30] Luis Urrego: [01:08:30] exactly.

[01:08:31] Jhun Esguerra: [01:08:31] Wow. That’s how important it is not a Louis

[01:08:39] Luis Urrego: [01:08:39] brother June. Absolutely. Absolutely. That’s an amen. And, and that’s, again, going back to the thing you see that, that right there, you know, in the seals, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the mysteries, that’s just you being able to read for the brand himself. That’s just that that’s just, you know, in the [01:09:00] letter of the, of the word.

[01:09:02] And not in, but that doesn’t mean that, you know, the author. Let’s see, we want to know the author.

[01:09:08] Jhun Esguerra: [01:09:08] That’s the point. If you know the author, he can teach you all things.

[01:09:12] Luis Urrego: [01:09:12] Amen. That’s right.

[01:09:16] Jhun Esguerra: [01:09:16] Amen.

[01:09:19] Luis Urrego: [01:09:19] Amen. Amen. Praise God, praise God, brother, June. and that’s where, that’s where a lot of people I feel brother, June have come to is that throughout the years, that they’ve just known the letter of this message. And, and, and the Bible is clearly says, Jesus said of himself that the letter killed, but the spirit, the spirit giveth life.

[01:09:41] And, and to me, you know, that that is what the, that, that is. That that’s what constitutes the new birth is the, this, the Holy spirit has to be involved. The life of Christ has to be involved. It’s a re brother Brown said in the message of Jesus Christ, the mystery of God revealed what is the new [01:10:00] birth?

[01:10:00] It’s it’s the myth is the revelation of Jesus Christ personally, to you. Amen. So that is very important. Without the word there can’t be a new birth. What do you think about that, brother? Jean.

[01:10:18] Jhun Esguerra: [01:10:18] It is the word that will make us realize it is the word that we work in as Jesus Christ. There’s a letter, but the spirit of the witness, Jesus Christ himself

[01:10:29] Luis Urrego: [01:10:29] winning.

[01:10:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:10:32] Yeah,

[01:10:33] Luis Urrego: [01:10:33] absolutely.

[01:10:35] Jhun Esguerra: [01:10:35] To me and to all of us, not just knowing the message. No, it’s not an assurance.

[01:10:41] Luis Urrego: [01:10:41] Amen. Amen. You know, many people have read the same messages or the same Bible scriptures that the, the UN that you and I read, but yet come out with a different interpretation. It, how to me that’s that, that ends up [01:11:00] eventually killing them.

[01:11:01] If they’re not careful,

[01:11:04] Jhun Esguerra: [01:11:04] you know what this message movement. That’s why there are many will know that this backsliding, you know, I am not shy well, that’s the pastoral that is deep in the message. It’s not an assurance. No, because if they have known the truth, they will not go back.

[01:11:26] Luis Urrego: [01:11:26] Yeah. They

[01:11:28] Jhun Esguerra: [01:11:28] will not go back.

[01:11:31] Luis Urrego: [01:11:31] That they

[01:11:31] Jhun Esguerra: [01:11:31] have seen another thing, not crashing the message, but just the minister, maybe the group maybe, or the church. Maybe we must see Christ in every word.

[01:11:43] Luis Urrego: [01:11:43] Amen. That’s

[01:11:44] Jhun Esguerra: [01:11:44] exactly right. Yeah.

[01:11:47] Luis Urrego: [01:11:47] Amen regarding that brother, June, what do you think are the, some of the biggest misconceptions that, that you see people in the message have regarding Christianity or the message within [01:12:00] itself?

[01:12:01] Jhun Esguerra: [01:12:01] Yeah, this, this is a good thing to us. I think the biggest misconception of, of this message, just like what we have discussed earlier. Is when you know the message, you, you know, it intellectually you can wear long skirts, which is you can have a long hair, which is fine. But if that will not start at the inside, it’s not less

[01:12:29] Luis Urrego: [01:12:29] that’s right.

[01:12:30] Jhun Esguerra: [01:12:30] Colors will be revealed at the end.

[01:12:33] Luis Urrego: [01:12:33] Yes.

[01:12:34] Jhun Esguerra: [01:12:34] That’s why in the message. We have no arch Bishop here. We have no higher than the leaders. There’s no. Yeah. That’s why, why is it in the church they’re allowed to do with why in our church? Yeah. Yeah. That’s the thing because it’s like expect them if they have the kind of standard, [01:13:00] but as a minister, I will try my best to be in Vanderbilt.

[01:13:07] It’s not loading the message, but no, it’s just like this Noah built the arc. The arc is the message of that day,

[01:13:18] Luis Urrego: [01:13:18] correct?

[01:13:19] Jhun Esguerra: [01:13:19] Yeah. Has many people seen it? Yes. People said it because it was, it was built in the month then.

[01:13:29] Luis Urrego: [01:13:29] Amen.

[01:13:30] Jhun Esguerra: [01:13:30] For 120 years, but it it’s not enough the POC or the art, you must enter the Ark.

[01:13:37] Luis Urrego: [01:13:37] That’s right.

[01:13:38] Jhun Esguerra: [01:13:38] That makes the difference.

[01:13:40] Luis Urrego: [01:13:40] That’s right.

[01:13:42] Jhun Esguerra: [01:13:42] Noah, the sons and the wife and the in-laws and third, where many have seen the Ark, but they have a PDR. You don’t have to see the message. You must enter the

[01:13:53] Luis Urrego: [01:13:53] message.

[01:13:55] Jhun Esguerra: [01:13:55] No. And the family entered are now the art and the poverty of global [01:14:00] became one

[01:14:02] Luis Urrego: [01:14:02] that’s right.

[01:14:07] Jhun Esguerra: [01:14:07] Misconceptions. You know the message, but you have, you must enter, not just, not just know the seven seals, the seven church ages, not just know you must enter so that the word in you will become no one was in sin anymore.

[01:14:26] Luis Urrego: [01:14:26] Right.

[01:14:30] Amen. Amen. Amen. For the Jew brother, Julian, let me ask you this. And this is regarding the people as well. And in some of the things that I’ve seen, you know, that we can become stumbling blocks if, if they’re not careful, but, to actually be comfortable. You feel so comfortable because, you can get so comfortable because I know my pastor preaches the word.

[01:14:58] I, I, [01:15:00] it’s almost like a group mentality, like, you know, and it, Oh, I, I know I’m okay. Everything’s okay. My pastor preaches the word. We have good deacons there in my church and everything. So everything’s fine. And yet you have not had an experience with God. What would you say to somebody who, who, who feels that way or they see, or they say, Oh, no.

[01:15:21] Well, I go to, to the church such and such a church, and they’re well known in the message, you know? And I know I’m not, I know I’m okay. You know, what would you say to some, a believer?

[01:15:34] Jhun Esguerra: [01:15:34] Yeah. That’s way better. You know, I prefer to be simple. I must implement. The way I explain things. I am simplifying it.

[01:15:44] Luis Urrego: [01:15:44] That’s right. That’s what I like about you too.

[01:15:47] Jhun Esguerra: [01:15:47] Yeah. Complicated things I don’t want, you know, even  the reason that it is understood is if defining it. Yeah. You know, the, [01:16:00] the thing that is in the message, it is because we have no leader here that is higher than the minister. The highest is one drawback of being free.

[01:16:15] Everybody that feels to page, even they have no calling. David

[01:16:21] Luis Urrego: [01:16:21] say that again, brother junior, if they have no calling, you said, okay. Right.

[01:16:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:16:27] You know, the five foot minutes is a vital thing.

[01:16:31] Luis Urrego: [01:16:31] Absolutely brother

[01:16:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:16:32] starting there. We must know our calling and election and we must make it sure. It will start in the ministry because what the minister is saying, it can affect the lives of the people, both positive and neighbors.

[01:16:48] Luis Urrego: [01:16:48] Amen. Yeah.

[01:16:50] Jhun Esguerra: [01:16:50] You know, the problem that I’m seeing, but there are many ministers for me. I’m not judging. Okay. This for me.

[01:17:03] [01:17:00] Luis Urrego: [01:17:03] Wow.

[01:17:04] Jhun Esguerra: [01:17:04] It showed us that you’re good in speaking that you’re cold. No, there are many politicians that can speak with

[01:17:13] yeah. Banana split the message influence many times and influence cannot be positive in a negative impact. Because you are influential, you are not cold. Then you are in a certain ministry. Then the people are comfortable. I’m always watching a luggage, said it must have a Pacific on the lives of the people.

[01:17:37] Not just a good, not just a good gloving and numbers, no numbers or not. I’m not sure.

[01:17:45] Luis Urrego: [01:17:45] That’s good.

[01:17:46] Jhun Esguerra: [01:17:46] God knows your number.

[01:17:48] Luis Urrego: [01:17:48] Yes.

[01:17:49] Jhun Esguerra: [01:17:49] Yeah. Or at least there are mothers that is high. Their amount is that is slow, but still a mountain. It starts in the ministry. [01:18:00] The minister should know they’re calling an election.

[01:18:05] Luis Urrego: [01:18:05] Amen.

[01:18:10] Jhun Esguerra: [01:18:10] What unsat is there, there are some sincere believers. That is just in the wrong person. Honestly speaking, I’m seeing sincere believers. It’s just like Israel is the right nation in the wrong Egypt,

[01:18:33] but they are in the wrong land. That’s why they cannot receive the

[01:18:36] Luis Urrego: [01:18:36] blessings. That’s right.

[01:18:40] Jhun Esguerra: [01:18:40] If the minister knows she’s spoiling an election, it will go boil down. Every believer, even the simple believer will know his calling also because you are in the right building block.

[01:18:55] Yeah.

[01:18:57] Luis Urrego: [01:18:57] And, and that, I [01:19:00] guess that would, that would follow in with, with, another question that I have is how can someone know their role in the body of Christ or in the kingdom of God, their calling.

[01:19:09] Jhun Esguerra: [01:19:09] Yeah, it got us seeing what you’re doing and the positive is not the new on them, but the, the whole body thinking that their gifts are there are there for all subs on the norm.

[01:19:23] The gift is for the body.

[01:19:25] Luis Urrego: [01:19:25] That’s right. Yeah.

[01:19:28] Jhun Esguerra: [01:19:28] If you have to give a pitch, you will not pitch yourself. Only if you pitch the word, it has a positive to them. That’s how I think. But elevation, the body works. It is a complimentary thing.

[01:19:41] Luis Urrego: [01:19:41] Amen. I believe it

[01:19:43] Jhun Esguerra: [01:19:43] not just a one man band. It is the pastor. The place it is.

[01:19:46] The pastor also is the beacon. And there’s a person who is also playing the music. Maybe for a start. You will do that. I I’ve done that. For a start, but as the ministry grows and God is with the caping, it it’s about the work

[01:19:59] Luis Urrego: [01:19:59] because it’s [01:20:00] God placed in everybody and their exact position where there would be more, a complete blessing.

[01:20:06] Jhun Esguerra: [01:20:06] Yeah. Yeah. I want everybody to have their, their role be fulfilled, even the same disability. It’s not me. Only.

[01:20:19] Luis Urrego: [01:20:19] If

[01:20:19] Jhun Esguerra: [01:20:19] I ever found my colleague, you must find her because if I am not fit to this, I will just go down and let someone which

[01:20:26] Luis Urrego: [01:20:26] amen. I

[01:20:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:20:27] can do it up. You’re cheating,

[01:20:30] Luis Urrego: [01:20:30] right.

[01:20:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:20:32] If I am called to something and not do it, then all the believers that will follow the ministry, they will find themselves also comfortable with the calling, not just with the church or the group.

[01:20:45] Luis Urrego: [01:20:45] Brother June. And that’s it. That’s very interesting. I mean, do you feel, do you, do you feel, for example, a person or, or a brother that feels that they’re, they’re feeling the call to preach? how should they approach that

[01:20:59] Jhun Esguerra: [01:20:59] bourbon? I’m [01:21:00] said, you know, you have no right to stand in the pulpit until you met God.

[01:21:04] Face-to-face just like

[01:21:05] Luis Urrego: [01:21:05] Moses. Amen. Yeah, absolutely.

[01:21:11] Jhun Esguerra: [01:21:11] It is an experience that you cannot explain.

[01:21:15] Luis Urrego: [01:21:15] That’s exactly right.

[01:21:18] Jhun Esguerra: [01:21:18] If you haven’t met God face to face through the world, just like Moses one has no right to it.

[01:21:28] Luis Urrego: [01:21:28] That’s right. That’s exactly what he said.

[01:21:30] Jhun Esguerra: [01:21:30] Yeah. There are many good speakers. They are well-versed. They are eloquent. But if you’re on a call, you will just destroy your life in the lives of the people that is listening.

[01:21:44] Luis Urrego: [01:21:44] That’s right, brother, June, most of the time a real preacher doesn’t even want to go do it.

[01:21:49] Jhun Esguerra: [01:21:49] Yeah. Maybe away from it.

[01:21:52] Luis Urrego: [01:21:52] Yeah, exactly. Right.

[01:21:55] Jhun Esguerra: [01:21:55] Yeah. That’s one indication.

[01:21:58] Luis Urrego: [01:21:58] Yeah. Does that [01:22:00] that’s who God wants to glorify himself through is through the one that doesn’t, that doesn’t feel. I mean, Moses didn’t want to go in and talk to Pharaoh, but God said you’re still going to go and don’t worry, I’ll give you a speaker.

[01:22:15] And it was Aaron that’s right?

[01:22:20] Jhun Esguerra: [01:22:20] Yes. You know, if the minister is placed properly, all of the below will also be placed properly.

[01:22:27] Luis Urrego: [01:22:27] Hey, man,

[01:22:32] Jhun Esguerra: [01:22:32] you’ll be out of order as well.

[01:22:36] Luis Urrego: [01:22:36] Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So what do you, what, when brother Brandon said that brother, brother, June, and that I know a lot of people, they, they, they have. A question about it, especially ministers. When brother Brandon said, you need to go back to the backside of the desert and having experienced like Moses hat to you, what does that mean to [01:23:00] you?

[01:23:01] Jhun Esguerra: [01:23:01] For me, you have to wait for the will of God. You have to really pray for it. I think you met God face to face. Yeah. It’s not the literal that evil meet God, you will see his face.

[01:23:18] Luis Urrego: [01:23:18] Or even the burning Bush.

[01:23:19] Jhun Esguerra: [01:23:19] Yeah. Most it didn’t seem good. Face-to-face face-to-face it’s it means the expression of gadgetry that time, the burning Bush, but the God is at the burning Bush.

[01:23:33] That is, that is

[01:23:34] Luis Urrego: [01:23:34] so

[01:23:37] Jhun Esguerra: [01:23:37] Moses is really sure of his commission that every minister must be really sure of the commission.

[01:23:47] Luis Urrego: [01:23:47] Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Paul has told us amen, to be sure of our calling in Christ Jesus, and that’s very important. What was, what was that religion

[01:24:00] [01:24:00] Jhun Esguerra: [01:24:00] that is very important, but calling the election.

[01:24:03] Luis Urrego: [01:24:03] Amen. Amen. And as brother, June said that if you can make more of a mess out of it, if you, if you are not called by God to do it. Whether, whether you can speak eloquently, I’m in there’s people out here, like you said, brother, June, there’s politicians out here that speak, I can speak, circles around, you and me.

[01:24:26] But like you said, that doesn’t mean that they’re called to handle it, to handle the word. And, that, that is, that is, that is a thing brother, June, that, I think sometimes people and they get excited and they, because of it, because they confuse that excitement with the anointing of them, they can preach and then

[01:24:46] Jhun Esguerra: [01:24:46] you get it,

[01:24:47] Luis Urrego: [01:24:47] that’s it.

[01:24:48] And, and, and, and again, that is just an annoying thing. That is just an anointing. You have to find the will of God, his blood brother, June was saying the will of God will show you [01:25:00] exactly. And the will of God will the will of God is his word. Okay. Yes. And when you come out, when you get outside of the word, then you know, you’re not in the will of God.

[01:25:10] So when you start preaching yourself or preaching your own thing, you know that you’re not in the will of God, then.

[01:25:18] Amen. Amen. Praise the Lord where the June. That’s wonderful. Wonderful. I, I’m really enjoying myself for the June. I hope you are

[01:25:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:25:27] enjoy

[01:25:30] last long. I am enjoying the, our finishes. I have it. I have a book, my charter, but we still have buried.

[01:25:38] Luis Urrego: [01:25:38] Okay. Well hopefully, maybe if it has enough battery for another 30 more minutes, if that’s okay with you per the June. Okay. Okay, maybe less, maybe less. we’ve been here an hour and 27, 28 minutes now.

[01:25:51] And it doesn’t seem like it.

[01:25:55] Jhun Esguerra: [01:25:55] This is just a, we just have started.

[01:25:59] Luis Urrego: [01:25:59] No, [01:26:00] I know. It just seems like it started, just going through here through some of these, sister, sister, my, she, she she’s commented a lot, you know? Amen. Amen. True. Amen. She, she just, she just really soaking all this in and really enjoying, as she says here, John three, three Jesus answered and said unto him, barely rarely sent to the, except a man be born again.

[01:26:19] He cannot see the kingdom of God. That’s exactly right. Sister mind. And, You know something interesting brother, June, his sister, what sister, my there was bringing out is that the new birth where the June is something, it’s almost something like you cannot even explain it. You know, it’s, you know, it’s happened because as Jesus said there in, in, in, when he was talking to Nicodemus towards the end of that chapter, he tells them, he says, as the wind bloweth and you don’t know where it comes from.

[01:26:51] Or where it go with there when he’s talking to the air at the end of that chapter, when he’s talking to Nicodemus, he said, so it is so is it [01:27:00] that, so is the person that is born again of the spirit. It’s an experience that really it’s a process really. Just, as you said while ago, you can’t explain it, but you know, the effects of it are there because the effects of it is that you’re changing your life is changing and that this word is becoming real to you.

[01:27:21] And it’s not just head knowledge, but it’s the spirit. What do you think about that?

[01:27:29] Jhun Esguerra: [01:27:29] This is what I’ve said. Well, what about the physical work? But the physical birth is much more mysterious than that spiritual growth.

[01:27:38] Luis Urrego: [01:27:38] Yeah.

[01:27:38] Jhun Esguerra: [01:27:38] How you and someone, some human will be forming your Wong. Then you do, it would also have ears, nose.

[01:27:47] How can someone inside the womb of a woman can breathe in nine months? He can survive? Well, Jonah was inside the big fish belly for [01:28:00] three days, but this, this being will be in nine months. We’ll be inside. How can you explain that? It just helped to trust the process. That one day it will bring forth life.

[01:28:12] Luis Urrego: [01:28:12] Amen.

[01:28:13] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:13] We just have to nourish it. You just have to take care of it. You just have to pray for it. One day it will yield like

[01:28:22] Luis Urrego: [01:28:22] that’s right.

[01:28:23] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:23] That’s that’s how I explain also the new book. You just have to go to church and listen. We just have to knowledge what’s inside of you. If you feel that there’s a quickening,

[01:28:34] Luis Urrego: [01:28:34] we’ll feed

[01:28:35] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:35] it and feed it and feed it one day, it will burst life.

[01:28:38] Luis Urrego: [01:28:38] That’s right. Again, it has to do something with food, spiritual food, but

[01:28:45] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:45] still here. This

[01:28:46] Luis Urrego: [01:28:46] is how the baby grows.

[01:28:50] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:50] The baby will get it. Oh, the church eats as a mother, the woman, the believers.

[01:28:58] Luis Urrego: [01:28:58] Amen.

[01:29:00] [01:28:59] Jhun Esguerra: [01:28:59] It is the father that supplies the food to the woman in evidence request to go to the church for the believers inside to be said, then one day the light will burst

[01:29:11] Luis Urrego: [01:29:11] the man.

[01:29:12] Jhun Esguerra: [01:29:12] Can you just say amen?

[01:29:15] Luis Urrego: [01:29:15] Amen. I can say, I’m born again, praise God, praise God. What a wonderful thing it is in this hour, even in the, in the hour that we’re living in brother June, to be able to experience the new birth in our life and to serve God. and, and regarding that brother, June, what is it? The, what do you think that, that, that God is doing now and just stay in this day and hour that we’re living in amongst his people

[01:29:43] Jhun Esguerra: [01:29:43] exciting times.

[01:29:45] Luis Urrego: [01:29:45] Hey, man.

[01:29:48] Jhun Esguerra: [01:29:48] I remember last year when 2020 was approaching, I always say to the congregation, but I cannot explain it. I can feel something about , [01:30:00] but I cannot explain them.

[01:30:03] Luis Urrego: [01:30:03] Right.

[01:30:03] Jhun Esguerra: [01:30:03] So you have a feeling that you’re going to explain

[01:30:08] asking pastoral there aren’t you we’ll come up with it. I’m not saying it. I ended up with addicting. I ended up putting a date, but I can feel something in 2020. That’s just like a mother that’s as a child. There’s a quickening, but you got to explain it.

[01:30:29] Luis Urrego: [01:30:29] Amen.

[01:30:30] Jhun Esguerra: [01:30:30] Then come in. Yeah. Bush fires, war and American era.

[01:30:36] There are local calamities here in our country. All of those that had transpired just the first quarter

[01:30:43] Luis Urrego: [01:30:43] by them. Then

[01:30:46] Jhun Esguerra: [01:30:46] at the end of the first quarter, we are not aware that that little thing from China, we stopped the word in seven months.

[01:30:56] Luis Urrego: [01:30:56] Yeah.

[01:30:58] Jhun Esguerra: [01:30:58] Imagine [01:31:00] 2020 is a perfect vision.

[01:31:06] For me, it’s not negative. It’s positive. What I can see now I can now see, you know what, but I could tell you a little story. If you would allow me

[01:31:17] Luis Urrego: [01:31:17] March

[01:31:17] Jhun Esguerra: [01:31:17] 18. I think that was our payer meeting environment mistaken. Then the regulations has come out that there will be a curfew. There will be a limitation of going out.

[01:31:29] So it’s our meeting for us to follow the perfume, to do it earlier.  one meter apart, there will be an alcohol there really to follow up. Then we started, the service is in the middle of the service. Some officers came up and they called us.

[01:31:52] Luis Urrego: [01:31:52] The

[01:31:52] Jhun Esguerra: [01:31:52] vehicles were talking to the officers. I got up. I am the one with the pocket, the officers I requested. Can you just [01:32:00] finish the service, maybe request, but just to finish the service, you know what the officer said? If you will insist on that the police will come.

[01:32:17] I will not leave them because they’re just following orders. when I heard that I just bought down visits and squeezing

[01:32:32] this. I told them, just give us a few minutes and he will disperse when they come up to the pulpit again, come up. I cannot hide my feelings. I, I shed tears. I tried to hide. I can. I said, I’ll go to the place that one sister will go on live streaming, but it’s the first live streaming, [01:33:00] very wrong, very, very old fashioned.

[01:33:04] Then, then it is then the lockdown thing, the world, anything that this is a negative thing for the right and safe practice. God, that’s what we are doing over in English. This is online. It’s a blessing. Yes. Maybe I’ve never thought that you will be doing this years ago.

[01:33:31] Luis Urrego: [01:33:31] No, no,

[01:33:34] Jhun Esguerra: [01:33:34] but God has opened a certain channel for us to be prepared one day in a religious persecution.

[01:33:38] This is not religious persecution. This is just a virus, but one day it will be a religious persecution that we will use this platform to. Perfect membranes.

[01:33:51] Luis Urrego: [01:33:51] Amen.

[01:33:56] Jhun Esguerra: [01:33:56] Butter banners pitching, then the [01:34:00] recording equipment came

[01:34:01] Luis Urrego: [01:34:01] up.

[01:34:04] Jhun Esguerra: [01:34:04] Those are the first step. Is it the fit? Is it substance? There were gun just for the recording. The need that this message must leave us.

[01:34:19] When, when God is ready to, to distribute all the Bibles. After the dark ages, the printing press was invented or what’s the scope.

[01:34:31] What were the variables of Guttenberg for the cruise to have wings? The purpose of printing press is for the Bibles to be printed, not for the election, not for any other purposes, not for what the smell. Because it is a present need. Now we have it. We have imagined that we will do these things.

[01:34:53] God has opened a certain channel for bread to be, to be rich out

[01:35:04] [01:35:00] that new perfect and right. Got as many ways I have imagined that we’ll be doing this.

[01:35:11] Luis Urrego: [01:35:11] I don’t think brother, June, that anybody would imagine that we would be doing. I mean, it was being done. We know that services were being streamed live. You could, you could go in, but to actually depend on this live stream for, for, for you to attend church know, you could never imagine that.

[01:35:31] Jhun Esguerra: [01:35:31] Yeah. And now we have seen, that’s why I’ve said it exclusions that when the churches will be close again, now we know what we will do.

[01:35:41] Luis Urrego: [01:35:41] That’s right.

[01:35:43] Jhun Esguerra: [01:35:43] God, didn’t give us a theory. Only God has given us a simulation of what will happen.

[01:35:49] Luis Urrego: [01:35:49] Amen. Amen. Amen. You know, brother, June, I told my wife the other day, it’s almost as if I’m.

[01:36:00] [01:36:00] God is allowing for us to come through this where he’s, he’s allowing for us to be, I guess, separated in this way. We don’t want to separate ourselves. We know that, you know, we, I believe that the believer wants to assemble himself, especially as the, is that they come at it just like the Bible says, but it’s almost, it’s, it’s almost like Lord is trying to prepare us so that we really can appreciate when we do meet together in that, in that glorious place.

[01:36:29] And there’ll be, there’ll be no separation, no nothing. We know how it was to have to be separated. We know how it wasn’t and it was terrible, you know? Cause I want to shake my brother’s hand. I want to hug your, I want to hug your neck and you can’t do that virtually, but over there you over there, there’s no limit that there was be no barriers.

[01:36:50] That would be no virus, no nothing. So what, what do you think about that?

[01:36:54] Jhun Esguerra: [01:36:54] You know, appreciate. That’s a lot of contrast. You cannot appreciate light. There’s no darkness. [01:37:00] You cannot appreciate healing. If there’s no sickness, God has allowed things. I believe the physical distance, you know, the, the, the thing that we are not, we get go to church.

[01:37:13] You’re correct. Burn Lewis because we can appreciate more. That’s why they said the angels cannot understand the amazing English.

[01:37:25] But we as humans. Yeah. That’s why I think, but what is God doing now and what is, amazing and exciting? I’m always excited. Please bear with me.

[01:37:39] Luis Urrego: [01:37:39] Hey man, I’m always

[01:37:41] Jhun Esguerra: [01:37:41] excited what God will do to the super church. The super church is on the rise.

[01:37:48] Luis Urrego: [01:37:48] I believe that

[01:37:52] amen.

[01:37:53] Jhun Esguerra: [01:37:53] You are one them

[01:37:56] Luis Urrego: [01:37:56] praise the Lord. Amen. [01:38:00] And to think that we’re part of this super church in the whole world, the majority of the world has no clue of what’s going on.

[01:38:09] Jhun Esguerra: [01:38:09] It’s a sad thing.

[01:38:14] It’s just grace that we have seen

[01:38:20] Luis Urrego: [01:38:20] a member of the June. Do you, do you feel that God is using this time for us to, get back in line and get back in step to the things that we were, Where we were failing, where we’re failing at to straighten out, straighten our relationships with one another straightened our relationship with him.

[01:38:39] He’s given us the time. Now you, most of us have no excuse to not read and pray. When do you see what I’m saying

[01:38:50] Jhun Esguerra: [01:38:50] to me? The pandemic is a blessing to them. It’s a curse to the world, but it’s a blessing you see, during that doll. [01:39:00] The families are eating dinner together.

[01:39:05] All is at home already. The coffee shops are closed, are closed or post earlier. So the young people will go home early. The air was cleaner because there’s no pollution. You don’t have the time to sleep that you haven’t got when you’re working.

[01:39:27] Luis Urrego: [01:39:27] Right. I

[01:39:28] Jhun Esguerra: [01:39:28] can see positive things, but you have time with the Lord.

[01:39:32] You have time to read your Bible. You have time to pray. I think this is a reboot for the believers. God has made us realize the world will stop, but that will not.

[01:39:45] Luis Urrego: [01:39:45] Amen. Amen. You hit on something on something key there you said this is a reboot for the believers. You know, the, the, the ones that are, there’s.

[01:39:55] People in the world, elite, I guess you could say they’re calling for a [01:40:00] great reset, a great reset of the world and, and that life, that human life is not going to go back the way it was and that this is the new normal now. And, and I believe God is what he’s doing and he’s taking us not to a new normal, but he’s taken us back to his normal.

[01:40:16] Yes. Of what he’s always, it always is. And he’s rebooting us back to, to that, to that point. And so, what do you feel? What do you think of that?

[01:40:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:40:27] Let’s wait, is this a conditioning for us heavenly while the world is deconditioning itself to the one world government, but we are receiving a different message that conditions us to eternity.

[01:40:41] Luis Urrego: [01:40:41] That’s right.

[01:40:43] Jhun Esguerra: [01:40:43] That’s why. Of course, we had to follow protocols in wash hands will physical distance. We will follow the rules, but inside of us is a peace, a certain peace that passes all understanding that this is just operation for a bigger one. [01:41:00] And it’s always good for the breadwinner.

[01:41:03] Luis Urrego: [01:41:03] Amen. Amen.

[01:41:06] Jhun Esguerra: [01:41:06] Yeah.

[01:41:07] Luis Urrego: [01:41:07] Amen. And as you said earlier, that this isn’t right now, this isn’t, this isn’t enough and I’m in brother, June here in America. There’s still people going out eating at restaurants. There’s still, I mean, it’s just, this is not a persecution. Like you said, a religious persecution is coming.

[01:41:31] Jhun Esguerra: [01:41:31] Not yet when the time comes, we know what to do.

[01:41:35] Luis Urrego: [01:41:35] Amen.

[01:41:39] Amen. That’s right. That’s right. That’s wonderful. Brother. June that’s that’s definitely is, is, is. Peaceful to know that God said, and he’s keeping his word where he said that I will be with you even in you to the day, to the end of the world and to the coming of it, to his [01:42:00] coming. And that’s what he promised to the believer.

[01:42:02] And it’s a peace within us. You know, sometimes we get fearful and because we don’t know, we’re fearful of the unknowns. But there’s nothing that, that, that God does not know anything about. Yeah. There’s, there’s probably, there’s E there’s man planning things in this world and doing things that probably you and me are probably fearful about.

[01:42:22] And they talk about a one world war government, and, and, and the Pope’s right in there with it. And, and, because it’s afraid it’s, it’s, it’s things. And even the ideas that they have in now, I don’t know if you’ve read things like that, but I read them. I read things like that. I even listened to their, to their speeches and stuff and how they want to mesh us with robots and, and, and things like that.

[01:42:45] I’m in that it’s creepy what they talk about brother, June and they’re serious and they’re serious about it. But that’s how it should be with, with us the broad, well, okay. They’re, they’re serious about that. Well, let’s get serious about the word because they [01:43:00] want to have their agenda. They want to have their own body change.

[01:43:04] And we know that it’s, we know that it’s Satan because Satan, Satan, and 19 them people, because it’s only Satan hates the image of God that he’s hate. And we know that and he knows that the image of God is in us. So Hey. Then we’re going to do our thing to obtain our body chains that God has promised in that body changed.

[01:43:23] That we’re going to obtain his eternal, not, not something that’s that’s not going to last.

[01:43:29] Jhun Esguerra: [01:43:29] I agree. The last time will be the buddy change.

[01:43:34] Luis Urrego: [01:43:34] That’s right.

[01:43:36] Jhun Esguerra: [01:43:36] I’m looking forward to it.

[01:43:38] Luis Urrego: [01:43:38] Amen. And it’s just as real as you and me are sitting here right now, brother, June. It’s just as real. I believe that with all my heart.

[01:43:48] Let’s see if we can, we can, greet some, more people here. Let’s Hey man, sister, my sister, my says we are blessed people glory to my almighty God. Amen. She also [01:44:00] says I’m going home. I’m going home. There is nothing to hold me here. Amen. And amen. That’s right. Sister, mind. I believe that with all my heart.

[01:44:08] This is brother, Samuel. Now head up brother, Samuel, brother, June. And he’s speaking in Spanish by the Samuel. He’s a pastor here in South Carolina. And, I don’t know if you can read that. Can you

[01:44:21] Jhun Esguerra: [01:44:21] just live in DC? I have Amanda Lewis available. So does this, the solar Carolina that’s

[01:44:28] Luis Urrego: [01:44:28] right. Amen. I hope that brother Samuel is listening right now, but he’s, he’s, he’s fixing English too, and I’m sure he could understand, but he would appreciate that, that you read that in Spanish,

[01:44:41] Jhun Esguerra: [01:44:41] Filipino, Spanish speaking people as

[01:44:44] Luis Urrego: [01:44:44] well.

[01:44:45] That’s right. That’s right.

[01:44:47] Jhun Esguerra: [01:44:47] Spanish, the gene for centuries better.

[01:44:52] Luis Urrego: [01:44:52] That’s it. I mean, when I, when I visited the Philippines, I mean, it’s, the, the culture is just like visiting a Latin [01:45:00] Latin country. The only difference is the food and, the language, in some way, you know, the, the, the main language is to garlic.

[01:45:08] And of course the majority of people can speak English as well. But a lot, a lot of Spanish is intertwined in there in the . Yeah. So it’s a very easy to pick up. I tried brother June to, to, to learn it, to garlic more and more. And I don’t see, I, I don’t stay with it then I forgive. I have. Yeah, I know, but we just ended up talking in English again.

[01:45:34] So.

[01:45:38] It’s a blessing. It’s a blessing. let’s see. My wife says yes, Dita fair. We wish we can go over to Toronto to balance all you’re dying to go. Yeah. We have not visited Toronto. And it’s been a while now. I’d love to go back brother. And I had, just now said, when you said that brother, he said, amen brother.

[01:46:00] [01:46:00] Jhun Esguerra: [01:46:00] No, that’s not Spanish.

[01:46:03] Luis Urrego: [01:46:03] That’s English now they’re living. They got mano somewhere.

[01:46:11] amen, brother, June. we’re finishing up now and I, I appreciate again, the time that, that you gave us, what, what, what, what, What the, what can you say to people, brother, June as we’re finishing up, you know, some final thoughts or some final words of encouragement, brother, June, that you can give to people right now?

[01:46:30]or through the broad that’s listening to us right now.

[01:46:33] Jhun Esguerra: [01:46:33] Okay. thank God once again, but always thanks for this opportunity and a privilege to be with you and your programs. And I believe that she’s, edifying to the bright, well, we are at the end of the end, this pandemic is a sign that, that the world can be controlled.

[01:46:57] The world can stop. [01:47:00] It was prophesied. We hold the money. She spent the attackers will hold them. May I encourage all the believers that, we may, we may have a sharper vision of what’s happening. It’s now near to our body change. We just help the best or we just have to get the right thing. We just have to be spiritual.

[01:47:24] We just have to be humble. We must stay with the word. We must stay with the message. Get away from strange doctrines, discern spirits, private spirits, global things.

[01:47:37] Luis Urrego: [01:47:37] Hey man.

[01:47:39] Jhun Esguerra: [01:47:39] Yeah, God is good. All the time. Gladly move. God has a certain right channel. Keep the fellowship among the things.

[01:47:50] First John one seven, but if you walk in the light, that is fellowship with God as he is in the light, the fellowship of the world with God, then we have fellowship one with another, the [01:48:00] fellowship among the blood.

[01:48:01] Luis Urrego: [01:48:01] Amen.

[01:48:03] Jhun Esguerra: [01:48:03] Jesus.

[01:48:07] Luis Urrego: [01:48:07] Amen. You said that that was your favorite Bible verse, man. I love, I love that verse too. Amen. And that’s a present. They liked amen. That light moves that light, that light moves and you have to move with,

[01:48:27] Jhun Esguerra: [01:48:27] you must walk in it. Yeah. With it.

[01:48:33] Luis Urrego: [01:48:33] Hey man. Hey man. It is Jesus Christ. Amen. Is Jesus Christ in you and you and him.

[01:48:41] Yeah. That’s exactly what that light is and that, and when it’s like that, he said, just ask what you will and I’ll do it. You have that you have that opportunity. You have that, assurance and all you gotta do is just walk in the light. And what [01:49:00] is the light? What is the light? It is his word. Amen. It is the present day word for your day.

[01:49:10] Amen. That’s the life that we’re living in. Say that again by the June. Well,

[01:49:17] Jhun Esguerra: [01:49:17] thank God we are walking in Israel.

[01:49:20] Luis Urrego: [01:49:20] Amen. Amen. That’s wonderful brother, June. Well, brother, June. I really thank you for the time that you’ve given us, is, And just appreciate your ministry with certainly, be praying for you, that, for your ministry.

[01:49:34]if, if the believers, and the people watching us right now, we have, this is their Facebook page and, you can visit their Facebook page right there. I don’t know if you have, if the church has a website or not brother, June.

[01:49:47] Jhun Esguerra: [01:49:47] Not yet.

[01:49:50] Luis Urrego: [01:49:50] Well, I’m in Facebook sometimes rather June is just as good, you know, too, as a website.

[01:49:56] So, but, I’ve, I’ve [01:50:00] had, I’ve had people tell me, you know, I need, I don’t, my church needs a website and I tell them, Well, what would you want something more than what the FA Facebook page already provides? I mean, you could do videos there, you could do images, you could do, even live chatting and you’re going to have to add extra things to a website.

[01:50:20] If you make a website on your own. You know, so, but anyways, you can, visit his web, their website there at token life ministries church, and, go back and listen to, services that they’ve, that they’ve, it’s archived there. And I’m sure that you would receive a blessing. Is there any, any final things brother, June that you might want to say before we call it quits for the, for the day?

[01:50:43] Jhun Esguerra: [01:50:43] Yeah. Once again, walk in the light, not with the group that will administer, but we’ll give a group in a minister and keep pressing on to the doctor comes, we’ll see each other there.

[01:50:58] Luis Urrego: [01:50:58] Amen. Amen. Well, [01:51:00] God bless each and every one of you brother, jr. If you could just stay here just a moment and then I’ll get you out.

[01:51:04] I’ll talk to you on the other side. again, again, brothers and sisters, this will be turned into a podcast and in just a few days, we’ll have it there. If you have not subscribed to our podcast, you may do so we’re on Apple podcasts. we’re on Google podcast. We’re on Spotify. You can subscribe there.

[01:51:22] And, you can, you can, you can listen to our previous podcasts. I believe we have up to about 30, up to 36 episodes now. great content, great believers that we’ve interviewed, before we even started doing the live streaming here. so you can go back and listen to some good content that I know that it will bless you.

[01:51:42] And, as well, you can also listen and visit our YouTube page. Where we have videos there and things that you can share with others. And I, I, I, I, I, if I believe this is what I say, if you have been blessed, then just share that blessing with others as well. So, so that they, others [01:52:00] can be blessed as well.

[01:52:00] Same thing with this stream. So I thank brother June for being here with us, and I trust that each and every one of you will pray for his ministry and, Through his ministry. God will win more souls for the kingdom of God, because that’s all that matters in this hour. So may God bless each and every one of you have a good night, have a good rest of the day, wherever you are, take care until the next episode, may God bless you.

[01:52:22] And remember, do not forget to neglect your soul because your soul is worth 10,000 worlds. God bless you.

[01:52:30] Jhun Esguerra: [01:52:30] God bless you.