Episode 28: Perseverance Through Tragedy – Bro. Keith Brown’s Testimony Pt.2

Episode Transcript:

[00:00:00] Luis Urrego: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Ten Thousand Worlds Podcast. My name is Luis Urrego, and we welcome you. Thank you that you had the opportunity to join us and to tune in to episode number 28 of the podcast. I’m so glad that you could join us today on this interview that we’ve been having with brother Keith Brown. This is the second part of the interview that we are going to be airing on this podcast.

[00:00:25] So we don’t want to delay the time too long, too long. So, without further ado, we’re going to go ahead and continue. The last time when we left off, brother Keith was talking about how he had just how he had lost his second wife after losing his first wife. And now he’s just lost his second wife and she was pregnant with twins.

[00:00:49] I believe it was two twin boys, seven months pregnant lost her as well. God took her off of the scene along with two with the two babies. So in one [00:01:00] day he lost three people, three family members. And, so, but that’s not where the tragedy ends. There’s more tragic tragedy ahead coming up for brother Keith.

[00:01:11] But God. Is working through his life and God is using all these things to bring him to a point in his life where, where he is now. And so we’ll get to that point. This is the rest of the interview. So may God bless you as you listen. And I hope that you hear something that would encourage you, inspire you and just get, obtain more faith in your life to move on.

[00:01:36] Even in the times that we are living in may God bless you. As you listen,

[00:01:42] Keith Brown: [00:01:42] You might not comprehend. Lord. Why, why are you doing these things to me? Why are you putting me through these things? And a, but I’m here to tell you, if your son and daughter of God, you will come to a place in your heart that you realize [00:02:00] that God is going to take care of you.

[00:02:06] No matter what, you know, it’s your, your peace that you have. It’s that peace that passes all understanding, you know? And when you go through those those times, you know, like I said, I’d, I’d had a four way bypass, open heart surgery, and then I lost, I lost, her and the two twins. And then not even a year later, I lost my home by a fire.

[00:02:33] And it was like losing her all over again, just in a different kind of way. Cause it was more material, you know, it was more the material things. And

[00:02:44] Luis Urrego: [00:02:44] So you lost, you lost everything there in the home? I,

[00:02:48] Keith Brown: [00:02:48] I, well, I lost most of everything that was on the back part where the X actually started. Because it was really the grace of God because, I used to wonder [00:03:00] why Angie would spend hours working on these scrapbooks with her family heritage and everything, you know, and I mean, she just spent hours.

[00:03:10] She loved doing it and things like that. And the books used to be right over where the fire had started. But about a week before that something laid on my heart, get those books, take all them books and take them to the front part of the house where the living room was I was remodeling. Because if I hadn’t, all those books would have been destroyed, everyone of them would have been destroyed, but God is gracious.

[00:03:40] And that little, still small voice, you know, right. That we listened to. And, But, she, you know, she, she passed away, the twins passed away and now, like I said, then a year later, I had the, you know, lost, lost my home. I would, and [00:04:00] they had to destroy it because it was going to happen. Well, you couldn’t live in it no more.

[00:04:04] It was a. Not only what, what the fire had done, but what the fire department had done, you know, they got to come in and rip everything out, spray water, and they tear all the wires out and it was just terrible, you know, but it was part of it. Lord, bless me where I’m living on the church property. Now give him a home that we’re living in now.

[00:04:28] And then, turned around and gave me a lovely and gracious woman by the name of charity dove.

[00:04:38] Luis Urrego: [00:04:38] So, sorry, sorry to interrupt for the key. Sorry to interrupt you. I wanted to, to talk about that here, now cause yeah, sister charity there. And w but let me ask you this before that. And, yeah, I’m. Truly, truly, it is heartbreaking to hear the story and, I, I probably, I’ve never [00:05:00] experienced anything like that.

[00:05:01] And, I wouldn’t be able to, to know only you would know because you went through it. and on top of a ho a heart surgery and on top of losing your home in a fire, That’s gotta be a, that almost makes me think of Joe, but,

[00:05:18] Keith Brown: [00:05:18] tell me that one day. And I said, well, did he lose his gallbladder?

[00:05:25] Luis Urrego: [00:05:25] Did you, did you lose your gallbladder during that time?

[00:05:29] Keith Brown: [00:05:29] Then a week later I married my daughter a painting. It was, it was really beautiful. Can I share one thing with you,

[00:05:40] Luis Urrego: [00:05:40] Keith?

[00:05:41] Keith Brown: [00:05:41] Oh, when my trailer was destroyed by fire, we were out of the state. We were in another state was at a funeral. I got a phone call and my brother in law had told me that my home had, was pretty much gone.

[00:05:56] It was really the grace of God. The fire department got when they did [00:06:00] the trailer was at its melting point. And we were, you know, we were going, we were coming in and they were able right where the fire had started. We’ll notice that the walls were a big old guests. So God allowed that fire to go up and go the opposite direction, but it went through the house and it burned.

[00:06:21] I mean, all the pictures were melted. In the wall and you could see where it was so hot that the, sheet rock screws were exposed, but we hadn’t booked her. Now, this is a miracle brother. We had a picture that was all over the piano. It’s a picture of Christ in the seven angels. Now I’ll tell you three things that were supernatural about what happened in this fire.

[00:06:48] When you walked in, we shine the flashlight. It was late at night. The smoke was just a little tiny. It just stuck to you. I shine light at the wall and that [00:07:00] picture had not melted brother. Maurice had not, I mean it,

[00:07:10] Luis Urrego: [00:07:10] but everything around it was

[00:07:13] Keith Brown: [00:07:13] just a little bit around the edges in perfect. Nothing happened to it.

[00:07:21] All the other pictures of the family on the walls were gone and melted my office, my office, where I had all my message books. Now, these books, you don’t replace. These are the old message books, not the newer ones. These are the old ones and, old spoken word ones. And it was, I walked in. And bro, everything in my office was melted.

[00:07:49] It was gone. The computer, the, the, the, fan had melted because it had reached its melting point in the trailer. They said [00:08:00] all those boots to fire shot over those books and came down the wall and melted everything. In my office. Now you talk about books tested by fire.

[00:08:13] Luis Urrego: [00:08:13] Yeah.

[00:08:14] Keith Brown: [00:08:14] Right. But those books survive.

[00:08:17] No, my daughter’s room was in the back area. The smoke had literally just went underneath the door, found every crack in a wall, little eye, little fingers coming up, you know, and the set was so heavy in her room. That she had to message. One was Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever. And the other one is he cares.

[00:08:42] Do you care? Now? I had these two, that those two books had no set on them. When you lift off the book, you could see where the books had laid, but God did not [00:09:00] allow one. Being upset. To come on those books, my precious brother,

[00:09:08] Luis Urrego: [00:09:08] my goodness, brother, Keith. And it does. And that’s not the only testimony that I’ve heard of, of, of books and Bibles being preserved.

[00:09:17]I mean I’ve, I’ve of course, brother, Brandon. He even testified when the, in the 1937 flood there in, in Jeffersonville, Indiana, everything was flooded in the tabernacle and the pulpit Rose what the Bible of believe was still on top of there. Well,

[00:09:31] Keith Brown: [00:09:31] Mary Brown, if there was any, if there were any important doctors she wants, that was saved in that day.

[00:09:38] It was that Bible?

[00:09:40] Luis Urrego: [00:09:40] Absolutely.

[00:09:43] Keith Brown: [00:09:43] Well, that was the document that was saved for that day. Definitely.

[00:09:48] Luis Urrego: [00:09:48] Well, the Bible says, you know, heaven and earth will pass away, but his word will never pass away. Now we know that, you know, At some point, you know, the physical Bibles will burn, you know, at some point, [00:10:00] but that, but if that, but if that word, that word is supposed to become flesh in us.

[00:10:05] And so that’s, that’s where it needs to be in our hearts. but yeah, but brother, Keith, can you share with us then? So after you lost your second wife, after you lost your second I’m in your home, where did you plan on getting remarried again? Or w was that in your plans or how did that work out that you, when you, when you met sister charity?

[00:10:27] Well,

[00:10:27] Keith Brown: [00:10:27] it’s really, really super natural. Our meeting came together, about maybe a good month after I, you know, my wife had passed away and everything. And, maybe I could share this one little fault that might encourage those that do lose a mate, is that it’s good to be able to take pictures and just put them around your bed or around your bedroom and just [00:11:00] kind of, you’re not creating a mausoleum or anything like that.

[00:11:03] It’s just, you’re you’re drawing strength. Awful. And then as time goes on, you’re able to kind of take that picture and maybe set it over here and take this one and know set it over here. So eventually you’re able to grieve and that’s important is to grieve you, you really, and everybody grieves different, you know, everybody has a different, grief time and period, and you can’t just tell somebody, Oh, you got to get over and you can’t get it just doesn’t work like that.

[00:11:36] Because grief is a part of what God uses to restore. It it’s like a healing it’s, it’s, it’s like, if you get, a sore and the first thing, you know, the blood, the sore comes over and the blood is working underneath well, once that healing process begins, it’s, it’s a site. When he goes through grief, you begin to mourn [00:12:00] and you begin to grieve.

[00:12:01] Then you, you, you become restored and then you come back to restoration and it’s, it’s God’s process, you know, it’s God’s process to help us heal. And, I know that, when we, or myself, you know, when I was going through what I went through, the Lord gave me a, a dream. It was a very, very powerful thing.

[00:12:25] I have never had a dream. Put in the dream was the one that God had chose for me and brother Brandon. And in that dream, it was one of the most powerfullest I woke up screaming, crying, and I wrote it. I wrote that dream down because in my heart I’d never had experience to dream like this. Cause in this dream, brother Brown turned around and gave me the woman that I’m married to today.

[00:12:57] And it was supernatural because in the whole [00:13:00] process of time was, it was about two years. I didn’t let anybody know what God had revealed in my heart, but at that time, God had been dealing with sister charity and. In my heart. I didn’t even let my church, you know, I mean, you’re holding all this in your heart.

[00:13:21] Now, all of a sudden you got people coming up to your church, what are the keys? I just had the strangest thing. God revealed to my heart. And it’s about sister so-and-so and you know, you’re trying to, you’re drawing this just resilent, you know, and you have to, because in your heart, you know that this is something God gave you, that has helped you.

[00:13:44] To go through. So about four months later on our, I shared this with, charities, a father, really Hughes and, never went to her, never went behind his back would have never thought of [00:14:00] doing anything like that. Cause I wouldn’t expect anything less if I had to deal with a situation like that. So I shared with him.

[00:14:09] What I feel like the Lord had revealed to my heart. And, you know, when you, when you first, when it first happened, it was a little struggle for me because I felt like that, you know, my first wife being passed away and things like that. And you just, you know, you want the will of God to be in your life.

[00:14:30] Not only in your life, cause you have children, you know, so you won’t a little God to be in their life too. So, we were, we talked and I told him, I said, I said, brother, I said, I will never say anything to no one. I won’t say anything to my church until I feel you’re prepared to talk to me about, well, I didn’t know it was going to be two years later, you know?

[00:14:57] Wow. But it was good. [00:15:00] The wait was good. Cause I’m going to tell you something right now. Young people out there. If you’re listening, that was one of the greatest prayer lives I’d ever had in my lifetime. I mean, I lived in prayer. I woke up in prayer. I fell asleep in prayer. I couldn’t even walk through the, the, the, the door, the hallway without falling on my knees, just praying and just waiting for that time and season.

[00:15:33] And then, eventually it did come around and, we were able to, come together and, may, maybe some other times it’s charity could give you her, her, her, what she experienced and what God revealed in her heart through all this. Cause more than anything we wanted, we wanted everything to be in God’s time and he needed season.

[00:15:57] Cause, like I said, he makes everything beautiful [00:16:00] and it doesn’t do no good young people to rush, to do things. If you feel like you love somebody, let me share something with you. Love will give you a heart that can light you. Mark my word. You won’t jump the gun. You won’t think this. You won’t say well, I got to talk to her.

[00:16:23] I got to go over her father. No. Love will give you a heart.

[00:16:29] Luis Urrego: [00:16:29] That is very powerful advice, brother, by the key. Because that’s one of the things that it’s tougher for young people to, to, to just wait and to wait on the will of the Lord. I’d rather wait on his perfect will for my life than to step into something that, to step into something haphazardly.

[00:16:48] And then later on it just goes, goes Ari.

[00:16:53] Keith Brown: [00:16:53] Right?

[00:16:54] Luis Urrego: [00:16:54] So did, did the Lord, did the Lord, sorry, brother. Keith did the Lord also, reveal [00:17:00] this to sister charities as well on her end. Okay.

[00:17:04] Keith Brown: [00:17:04] See, the Lord had been dealing with her and of course she had her struggles too, you know? yeah. She was seeking the Lord’s will and God gave her a really a beautiful quote. And, it really helped her, it encouraged her and, you know, I don’t know why this is turned to the young people now that I really just feel in my heart just to share something. Go ahead,

[00:17:29] Luis Urrego: [00:17:29] brother. Keith, go ahead.

[00:17:32] Keith Brown: [00:17:32] I think one of the struggles that the young people have today is it.

[00:17:40] You need a personal relationship. Would Jesus Christ because the problem God said, that’s the new birth. He said, what is the new birth? He said, it’s the revelation of Jesus Christ personally to you. And I will make some people [00:18:00] mad out in the internet world, but I got to say it.

[00:18:02] Luis Urrego: [00:18:02] Go ahead, go ahead. Google

[00:18:05] Keith Brown: [00:18:05] is not your Holy ghost.

[00:18:12] Luis Urrego: [00:18:12] Amen. Amen

[00:18:16] Keith Brown: [00:18:16] that right there will help a lot of young people because I mean, why would you trust in something that can change? Why would you believe in something that its own its own dictionary, Wikipedia changes every other week? Why would, why would you rest in something that is not the same yesterday, today and forever?

[00:18:45] You have to do, you got to commit your life to God. You find the Holy ghost in your life. And the prophet of God said, like, when you talk to that young girl, he said, you find the Holy ghost. He said, then the [00:19:00] Holy ghost will lead you to your will lead you to that water.

[00:19:07] Luis Urrego: [00:19:07] Good

[00:19:09] Keith Brown: [00:19:09] people I believe to read is the message of choosing the Rubraca.

[00:19:17] I really, really, that is a really, really good man.

[00:19:20] Luis Urrego: [00:19:20] I agree. I agree, brother, Keith, and going back to the Google thing, Google I’ll Google is it’ll just gives you a multiple results. Does just doesn’t but doesn’t give you an exact answer. The only ones, the only one that knows the exact answer is God,

[00:19:37] Keith Brown: [00:19:37] that’s it.

[00:19:37] And, and in that, in that process is social media. And all these things like that, that it’s people’s opinion. If you have a revelation of this message, you ain’t gonna walk away because I’m telling you right now, when you hit a revelation in [00:20:00] this message of what God has done, Andy, your gay, not, not Luther’s day.

[00:20:06] No, not pinnacle your day. This is your day young people. This is your message. This is the message of malakov four and five that tells you that it’s going to turn your heart. This what this message does. It turns the heart of the person. You might be believing all kinds of stuff. But when it comes to the point of allowing Google to be your leadership, that’s where you’re going to go off on the wrong way.

[00:20:44] You need a personal relationship. I had to have one when I was 17 years old, but you have to seek God for that personal. [00:21:00] Relationship. I mean, we’re, he is so personal to you. You can talk to each other as, as friends, as, as, as, as a savior, you can talk to him as a Redeemer. You could talk to him as a healer, a restoration, whatever language you need.

[00:21:24] That’s what he will be for you. He will be what you have need up. That’s why Bible says to confess your faults one to another seat, because once you’re confessing your fault, you’re confessing them. Not only to each other, but Christ is in them. And that’s the lie said you want to do is get a little, some social media network and be talking to somebody.

[00:21:45] They ain’t got the baptism of the Holy ghost because the next thing know your name’s going to be all over everything.

[00:21:52] Luis Urrego: [00:21:52] Absolutely

[00:21:54] Keith Brown: [00:21:54] ugly struggles that not just young people will always has. [00:22:00] I believe men and women struggle with it too. And that is the internet. Yeah. It can be an internet or it can be a sinner, what you make out of it.

[00:22:18] And if you take it as a Synernet. It’s going to destroy your home. My brother, it’s going to have to store your home. My sister young people. You’re going to find yourself struggling. She’s new brother.

[00:22:32] Luis Urrego: [00:22:32] Go ahead. But a key

[00:22:35] Keith Brown: [00:22:35] I’m really not, but I just really feel an anointing in the room.

[00:22:40] Luis Urrego: [00:22:40] Thank

[00:22:40] Keith Brown: [00:22:40] you. I’m just praying that these things that I’m saying, I’m not trying to be bossy.

[00:22:46] I hope you understand. But I’m, I’m just trying to my own experiences that I’ve experienced, but I

[00:22:55] Luis Urrego: [00:22:55] don’t feel bad at all.

[00:22:57] Keith Brown: [00:22:57] I’ve seen a lot of homes destroyed [00:23:00] by the internet. I’ve seen husbands get caught up in the ungodly things and, not, I mean, you know, cause the Bible speaks of in the old Testament, it talked about the David, you know, when he saw that Shiva.

[00:23:16] You know, he wrote around and talked about how that there was a, a window, you know, that was open. You know, he came by and she had pulled down the shades. Well, windows, if you understand what I’m saying, right. It was a bit Sheba there. And she looked through the window and saw her husband and despised her husband to the window, you know?

[00:23:42] So a lot of the situation. You get a, you get a, a third way scenario. You get a serpent, a man and a woman, and you’re, they get them in the bedroom. They get all three of them together. And the next thing you know, there’s struggle [00:24:00] in the marriage. There’s struggle in the home. There’s, there’s devils loose.

[00:24:05] And if the, if the mothers and fathers are struggling in their life, what do you think the children. Because the children are only looking to us as leadership.

[00:24:17] Luis Urrego: [00:24:17] Absolutely.

[00:24:20] Keith Brown: [00:24:20] That’s a few amount. What was the money?

[00:24:22] Luis Urrego: [00:24:22] No brother. Keith. That’s not a problem at all. And, listen, you know that for the, for the viewers out there watching us right now, w brother Keith and me, we didn’t script none of this.

[00:24:32] We didn’t talk about this before I send him some, some questions that maybe he could look over that we may be after he shared his testimony that he could. Go through, but, I believe this is the leading of the Lord and, and somebody out there may need this. So, it’s so important because this is, this is the, that you speak about, about that brother, Keith, because the internet.

[00:24:55] Well, we were not going to get away from it. I mean, it’s here to stay [00:25:00] and, and, and as a matter of fact, I believe the powers that be the world that we live in, they’re pushing us to be more digital and more digital now and let go of our social, of how really God created us to be, to, to be, to, to interact with one another in a social way.

[00:25:15] But so. It’s up to us as parents, those who have children up to us as parents to, to make sure that you apply that token in your home to make sure that you apply as a pastor, as a minister, as a, as a woman of God, too, to make sure that you put that thing in, in, in, in plain view, in the living room where everybody can see what’s going on, don’t give your children, the devices by themselves in their rooms or anything like that.

[00:25:41] That’s not. Let me tell you, you might think, you might think, my pastor says, he says something on the lines of, you might think that your little one is a little, it’s got a little halo on him, but it’s got little horns holding up that little halo. So it, the devil is, is sly. The devil is sly. And so it’s [00:26:00] behooves us as parents.

[00:26:01] To make sure that you put in, that Tom and, and, and, and don’t, don’t let the internet, raise your children. Don’t let the screens raise your children. As brother Keith said earlier, you make sure that you may create those memories in your children’s life because one day they’ll come to appreciate that.

[00:26:20] Keith Brown: [00:26:20] Yeah, I know that that. the weight, you can see it starting to turn that way even more now. she is now home, you know, and you look at the struggles, you know, her parents, they take their kids to school and they’re supposed to be in school or whatever. Now they’re struggling with work at home. You know, what’s working here, what is doing this, that and the other.

[00:26:47] And it just seems like there’s such a, it’s like everything coming up. It’s like, everything is the normality of the way we’ve known things. [00:27:00] Everything is just coming in, in such a, a volume just to, the word I’m trying to think of is. I don’t mean to me since his Corona coronavirus has come along, it seemed like to me that it is a fact that even our politicians is affected, people the way they see each other, where they look each other, you know, it’s like, you’re, you’re the enemy of the enemy, you know?

[00:27:27] And, I think a lot of it was what’s happening now with this virus and all this, what we’re seeing happening in the nation today. I mean, people’s minds are just, they’re just, they’re gone. I really believe these 200,000 thousand beams that have been loose. I believe that they are affecting people today because you’ve never seen such hate.

[00:27:53] I remember just speaks about those, those dirty birds during the cage, the spirit of those birds, you know, in the book of [00:28:00] revelation, you know, and all these things are being loose. They’re, they’re being loose, old people’s minds that are lunar. We’d go home. I mean, people today, they can’t talk to you since well.

[00:28:15] They, they argue about everything. You know, so it seems to me that there has been, you know, listening to stillness of this world. And I believe it was 200,000 thousand demons. The prophet of God spoke up, you know, said that we’re all in exited their own well they’re own Nebraska. We know that, but this world can not handle.

[00:28:38] Because dad has got to be the worst of the worst demons. My goodness. It’s brought back racism. It’s brought back, discrimination. It’s brought back things that, you know, that, that should’ve been done from generations and generations go, they fought those devils. They [00:29:00] fought those demons. They put them in the ground.

[00:29:02] They, they, they, they buried all those things. And now you’re we have what everybody just nitpicking, picking out, pulling out. And I believe it’s, it’s controlled by the, those demons. I mean, that’s just me, but that’s what I,

[00:29:18] Luis Urrego: [00:29:18] I agree, brother, brother, Keith it’s, definitely it’s demonic WARF, warfare. And, at the same time, at the same time, I do see it that it’s.

[00:29:27] It’s God, right now he’s given us an opportunity to, to examine ourselves and to see, I mean, because the Bible says that he is going to have a broad without spot or wrinkle, even in this layer to see ya. And so at somebody’s gonna leave in a rapture and if, and, and I say, brother, Keith, whatever it takes, whatever it takes, Lord.

[00:29:51] To get me ready, let it happen. And, and I believe that’s the cry of the true bride of Christ and brother [00:30:00] Keith. You mentioned something very key earlier today, which was something that the prophet said. And that was that, that the new birth is the revelation of Jesus Christ personally, to you. And that’s exactly what he said, in the message, I believe it was in the mess yet.

[00:30:19] Christ minister, God revealed. And, and, and I think,

[00:30:23] Keith Brown: [00:30:23] let me see here just a moment.

[00:30:28] Yeah, no, here it is right here. Yeah. Here it is right here.

[00:30:34] Luis Urrego: [00:30:34] That’s Christ the mystery of God revealed, right? Absolutely. What is the new birth? It’s the it’s

[00:30:47] Keith Brown: [00:30:47] God has revealed to you this great mystery. And that’s the neighbor.

[00:30:53] Luis Urrego: [00:30:53] Absolutely. And

[00:30:56] Keith Brown: [00:30:56] I’m sorry.

[00:30:57] Luis Urrego: [00:30:57] No, what I was going to say, brother Keith, [00:31:00] that that is so under the, how do you, how do you feel, do you think that that is under preached in this day and hour that we’re living in the new birth?

[00:31:10] Keith Brown: [00:31:10] Do you know what I really believe with all my heart go heavily message that really don’t understand what the full token is.

[00:31:20] I agree. It must not being, being preached like the prophet of God, you know, back in his day. Oh my goodness. He worked four or five times. He preached on the tope, but every time you just get some brand new ones, that’s the wonderful thing about this message. You cannot read the message books one time and get everything.

[00:31:43] You can’t do it. I read the message who was this much as a day. I’m probably honest to God probably read it like 80 to a hundred times and still get something right. Well, just something fresh and vibrant that, that carries [00:32:00] your own personal, relationship with Jesus Christ to a deeper walk. You know?

[00:32:05] Luis Urrego: [00:32:05] Absolutely. It’s the same thing with the word of God. I mean, when you, when you read the word of God, I always get something new, even though I’ve read the passage multiple times,

[00:32:15] Keith Brown: [00:32:15] but that,

[00:32:16] Luis Urrego: [00:32:16] that is, that is God. I mean, You have to see Christ in every page of the Bible, in every passage that you, that you read, you must see Christ because it is Christ from Genesis to revelation.

[00:32:30] And if you don’t see Christ, you miss something.

[00:32:34] Keith Brown: [00:32:34] What is in that book, in that message. If you allow me to read it here, listen to what he says here. This is really beautiful. He says, Let me see here. So here it is. He is the principle theme of the entire Bible. If you read the Bible and don’t see Christ in every book, so they go back and read it again.

[00:33:01] [00:33:00] See if you can see Christ in every way. First the Bible. Then you read it again because you have missed something. The Bible is Christ. He is the word when you read is the beginning. God created there’s Christ. Hey

[00:33:20] Luis Urrego: [00:33:20] man. Hey man.

[00:33:23] Keith Brown: [00:33:23] Didn’t you say? Okay, well, Judas hung himself. How do you get Christ out of that?

[00:33:29] What we do, because the revelation is there to understand what, you know, w what, what God is trying to reveal. And that day, you know,

[00:33:40] Luis Urrego: [00:33:40] Absolutely

[00:33:43] Keith Brown: [00:33:43] the same yesterday, today and forever. He never changes. One of the key principles went ahead. He right where the Brennan center was the first time the third pole was used on a human being.

[00:34:00] [00:33:59] And there’s a key. He says in the church age book, the key is Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. And he changes not. And he said the same thing that happened ahead anywhere. If it’s the first time that God did something, he never changes. Right. So we have the same right. To claim our love just as Hattie.

[00:34:27] Right.

[00:34:30] Luis Urrego: [00:34:30] Amen. It’s beautiful.

[00:34:34] Keith Brown: [00:34:34] This message is Christ.

[00:34:38] Luis Urrego: [00:34:38] Absolutely. Becky I fully agree. And I wholeheartedly believe that if. If you don’t get the new birth, you’re not, I mean, you will not have power to overcome this world and, and you will not have power to overcome yourself. And you’ve got to have that new birth [00:35:00] and, and.

[00:35:01] And, and it’s a constant growth. It’s a constant growth. Even after the birth, you’re still, the Bible says being born again. You see it’s a constant growth in Christ until you finally, you finally get that, that body change, that we’re all waiting that full redemption. And that’s all that we’re all desiring at this very hour

[00:35:23] Keith Brown: [00:35:23] there.

[00:35:23] No way in my own personal. Walk with Jesus Christ. Could I ever, ever turn my back on him? I could not do it. There is a very, very powerful quote. if you were to look it up, it’s in victory, a victory day. Brother Brown it’s so important. Excuse me to me that I put it in a Bali for my Bob, but what the Providence God says [00:36:00] there is that the, the, the hearing of the ear that I’m charged you believe here, I apologize semester.

[00:36:11] It’s called Jubilee year. He said, In that time, when the ears Pearce, he said, you will forever criticize the gospel. Now this is in this message. In fact, I had my Bible right here with me. I would pull it up for you, but he, he says you will ever criticize the gospel and you’ll die doing it. Now, my thought is what’s going on out in the internet world.

[00:36:43] It’s nothing but criticism criticizing, condemning doing everything. And to me, if that this is powerful, as he says, it is, that’s a seven of people that when you begin to [00:37:00] criticize mass, he said the gospel, we know the Bible. Well, the message all come together, but his quote was. When you criticize the gospel, he said you will ever criticize the Constable die doing it.

[00:37:19] You will be forever peers. It’s a sign of that piercing. I believe.

[00:37:26] Luis Urrego: [00:37:26] Absolutely. Yeah. The Bible says there in revelation to brother Keith, that those who don’t, who, those who don’t have the, the, the, the, the Mark, you know, those don’t have the seal of God will worship the beast. And I believe that’s tied in with the new birth, but

[00:37:45] Keith Brown: [00:37:45] this message is going to carry us all the way through.

[00:37:48] It has

[00:37:48] Luis Urrego: [00:37:48] to. Absolutely for the keys

[00:37:51] Keith Brown: [00:37:51] that this message is going to go to the genes. But the random

[00:37:54] Luis Urrego: [00:37:54] said that absolutely

[00:37:57] Keith Brown: [00:37:57] read this message. They’ll receive the [00:38:00] baptism of the Holy ghost.

[00:38:02] Luis Urrego: [00:38:02] Amen. That’s what’s promised.

[00:38:04] Keith Brown: [00:38:04] Hey, man. I mean, so, you know, a lot of people say, well, you know, there’s unfinished prophecies are sat in here.

[00:38:11] Well, there’s one, I don’t plan on being here.

[00:38:16] Luis Urrego: [00:38:16] Amen. I remember the key 

[00:38:21] Keith Brown: [00:38:21] no, I go a trip on a good old gospel ship, you know?

[00:38:25] Luis Urrego: [00:38:25] Amen. Let God deal with the details. You know, he just gives us, he just gives us, you know, the outline and we just go with it. You know, that’s

[00:38:34] Keith Brown: [00:38:34] what day I said, stop worrying and don’t get caught up in all this internet drama. Those things, they all have a purpose in a reason, everything has a purpose and a reason I said, I’m going to code up and all those things just get caught up in what God wants you to get called.

[00:38:52] Luis Urrego: [00:38:52] Absolutely. Absolutely. Brother Keith brother, Keith. I know we’ve we’ve we’ve we’ve gone here a little, [00:39:00] a little while longer. I could stay a little bit more, a few more minutes if that’s okay with you,

[00:39:05] Keith Brown: [00:39:05] whatever you would build it there, brother.

[00:39:07] Luis Urrego: [00:39:07] Okay. But since we, since we started a lot later because of the technical difficulties, but brother Keith, what are you?

[00:39:17]what do you suggest? Yeah. what’s what can you tell people right now at this very moment, the believer out there right now, who has seen, what they see in the media and, and what’s going on around the world, what is the best thing that they can do right now? This moment? To make sure that they stay, they keep their focus on God, on what’s more important and what’s important.

[00:39:39] All these things are just symptoms around us. But what of, what’s more important? What do you, what advice can you give them even, even the young people out there right now at this very moment?

[00:39:51] Keith Brown: [00:39:51] Well, I would say just stay focused in the word and, Tying into that, they [00:40:00] focus in this message. He goes, the prophet of God, shared with us a lot of things about the boy cots and the, different things like that and everything.

[00:40:13] And, and no doubt, what lot of people would probably think this is part of the final thing. And, but. If you listen to what brother Branham says, brother Brandon brings it, everything religious persecution. And this it’s just more of, as I said, run around a God, what God would have the seizures and the seizures, you know, but I think that keeping ourselves, more in tune with the Holy spirit in our life.

[00:40:47] That he will lead in God is through all this, you know, but don’t allow yourself to say, Oh, well, yeah, it’s a last and what’s not. Yes. Isn’t that? Well, one says to go up, one says, it’s this one says he ain’t going to have this [00:41:00] one. Ain’t going to do this. And you get your mind. So scribbled up with all these carnal faults, you know, when it’s the spiritual things, it’s the unseen things that’s going to help us.

[00:41:15] I believe. To carry us through this because I don’t see all this going on right now, as you know, I don’t know what the Mark, the beast or whatever these things like that are, or, you know, they’re going to shut this up. We are seeing churches. I gotta admit that we’ve seen what these leaders have done shutting churches down and everything.

[00:41:38] But what I’ve noticed is. They are more fearful of a lot of these things where when this real boy cut comes, I believe they’re going to know what to do. Cause Catholicism’s already gonna give them orders. They gonna know what to do, how to do it when to do it. Now, this could be a prelim. No doubt it is.

[00:41:58] And, it’s probably, [00:42:00] you know, it’s, you know, it’s both ways. I mean the same arc. The same, Noah’s the same heart. They brought you no judgment to the people, you know, and the same waters that took the children of Israel through is the same waters that came down and crashed on Pharaoh’s army and, you know, destroyed them all.

[00:42:20] You know, so you have your, you know, you have your angel of life and you have an angel dance, you know, So I, I, I hope that helped, you know, these just little thoughts that permeate my mind when it does come, that persecution will be like something we’ve probably never witnessed in this country.

[00:42:45] Luis Urrego: [00:42:45] Right.

[00:42:45] Barely Keith, I personally, we believe the way you, the way you just expressed it in this could be a little prelude, almost kinda like a, a training session, sort of say for us, the bride of Christ for the, for the, for the people of God. [00:43:00] And, but listen, listen to the ones that are listening right now. This isn’t this where we’re still not in a persecution.

[00:43:09] This is not a persecution because we can still, you can still go to Publix right now. You could still go to Kroger’s right now and buy your groceries. You can still go out in the eat at your local restaurants and things as such a, this isn’t nothing compared to what’s coming on after the broad leaves.

[00:43:26]but, but it’s definitely, it’s definitely a trine in and. I say more than anything, brother, Keith, it’s a time for us to look at it ourselves and realize, yes, things should not spiritually. Things should not go back to normal the way they were for spiritually speaking. Because if you were lazy, if you were nonchalant, if you were not going to church, if you were not fellowshipping with your brethren, Now when all that’s taken away from you, all of a sudden, then you’re going to realize, and you’re going to be like, Oh, I wish I was going to church.

[00:43:58] I wish I was [00:44:00] fellowshipping with my brothers and sisters. I wish I was praying the way out. I should be praying. And it takes it as humans. It takes as I hate to say, but it takes sometimes hardships and things like this to happen. Yeah. In order for us to get on our knees and realize. That we need a prayer life.

[00:44:16] We need the new birth. We need a constant relationship with God. We need our families. We need one another. And so, but I, I, I believe, I believe brother Keith, that this is a time for us to really reflect on ourselves and, and look up where our redemption is drawing is coming from, you know, cause our drinks from his drawing.

[00:44:37] Nah.

[00:44:39] Keith Brown: [00:44:39] Well, I know that, you know, even the saints, the church members, you know, you, we all have different levels of, of, Christ in our life. You know, some have greater faith than other people, some don’t, but we should never get to a place to where we would ever condemn a person, [00:45:00] just because say one would want to wear masks one wouldn’t.

[00:45:04] One come in with gloves and, you know, and, and, and a mask, you know, because the whole thing of it is, is it would be better to be at church in a mask Anglos or whatever you feel to do. At least you’re in church, you’re in the house.

[00:45:21] Luis Urrego: [00:45:21] Right.

[00:45:23] Keith Brown: [00:45:23] And bill, you know,

[00:45:27] I brother Brandon. And I think about, I was reading one time while he said he was in this one place and the, the sickness was just stagnating, you know, the smell of it. And I just wondered how many times that he did wear a mask or maybe he didn’t wear a mask or something like that, you know? And, well, like I said, I, you can’t look to the mask as your savior.

[00:45:53] You can’t look to the gloves as you savior, you know, As I said earlier, render in the seizures, what does [00:46:00] seizures in the gods? What is God? You know, and what are you going to do? Which is more, which is less. Same with any, then you’re doing tax stuff. How many people, you know, say praise God, I want to thank God for the BLT that I received per month.

[00:46:20] You still don’t really hear nobody do that, but that would be a good thing to do. You showed the Lord how gracious and thankful you are for what he brought in 40, you know, what’s more, you know,

[00:46:33] Luis Urrego: [00:46:33] Absolutely brother Keith, I heard recently brother for the Chad lamb, he ministered a message out. Wonderful message.

[00:46:39] He preached about that. And he was talking about that. He said, what is it? What if the Lord allowed for us to be able to. Be in service and he wants to hear the worship through the muffled of a mask. But, but, but that, there’s an obedient heart there. You see, [00:47:00] he’s not so much concerned about the sound that’s going through, but that there’s an obedient heart there that wants to be in church and wants to be an obedience, you know, to give to Caesar what Caesar’s into.

[00:47:13] God’s what’s God’s,

[00:47:14] Keith Brown: [00:47:14] you know, I do know when our own, situation that we dealt with at our church. we had, a young lady, it was on father’s day, actually father’s day was the last day that I had actually shut our services down because a young girl come in and she didn’t know she had it at the time.

[00:47:33] And she hadn’t been to our church probably in two years, maybe, or more. And they were there for father’s day. So anyway, they were around the family and then she had to go cause one of her, of people where she works at was tested positive. So she had to be tested and I believe she was tested positive for it.

[00:47:52] And, I was, yeah, no we’re around her or anything. And, I, like I said, I’d been working at my house and I [00:48:00] think I had just worked myself down, bolt myself down and my strength. And I think really that’s when that thing really kind of hit me because I’ll tell you when it hit me, it knocked me for a loop, but, we’re now God-willing, they’ll be starting back again at victory tabernacle in st.

[00:48:20] Augustine, Florida. If you’re traveling to Florida, there’s a church here. You can be a part of, and we will love to have you. 900 Cypress road st. Augustine, Florida, three two zero eight six. If you want to Google it some disassembled fun, but anyhow, we’re really looking forward to it. I’ll tell you when he hits the, the high order of the past, or it can, it can really put a strain, but I really want to be thankful too, for the brothers.

[00:48:52] And I had a, I had a brother out in Arizona that got struck with this. Amman. [00:49:00] He was in the bed. Couldn’t even get out real impressive friend of mine. And I want to thank God for the deacons. And the, the man of the church, the trustees that stepped in while I could not be at my full capacity, thank God for the men of God that God has blessed this church with.

[00:49:24] And I’m sure that there’s a lot of ministers out there probably feels the same, same way.

[00:49:30] Luis Urrego: [00:49:30] Amen. Amen. Yeah. There’s so many, so many that, that play different roles there. They’re so important to, to the function of the functioning of the services and the church. So, and I know that you’re glad brother, Keith, to be, to be at church tomorrow.

[00:49:46] I could just see it all over your face.

[00:49:51] Keith Brown: [00:49:51] Well, he was glad when they said, let us go into the house of the Lord, you know, I’m excited. You know, I was [00:50:00] just waiting to just share my heart with the Marvel of its

[00:50:07] Luis Urrego: [00:50:07] saints. Praise the Lord brother, Keith. One thing that has been, just almost right before we finished, but can you share with us briefly?

[00:50:16]so when, after you and sister charity, you know, at what point then you, this, cited that, Hey God, Showed me that you were my wife. And then how long after that, do you know that you got married to her and just kind of tell us a little bit about how many children you’ve had now with, with her and everything.

[00:50:38] Keith Brown: [00:50:38] Okay. Well with sister charity, we’ve had Bethany, we’ve had Levi and, Jeremiah. And of course Isaac was with Isaac, was with my sister, Angie that had passed away. [00:51:00] And, so he’s, he’s part of our, you know, our life he’s 16 years old and, Lord, he’s a really good young man. God blessed him just a few months ago to start playing the guitar.

[00:51:12] And I’m jealous.

[00:51:13] Luis Urrego: [00:51:13] I remember that. I remember that we were praying for him whether when we were there at your church a couple of months ago,

[00:51:19] Keith Brown: [00:51:19] I mean, the Lord has just really done a wonderful, wonderful job in his life with, with the gift there. But, in our four children, with, the children, my children that I’ve had with, sister charity.

[00:51:34] And, I think it was about maybe how many months after I taught with her dad. and I asked her. to marry me, it was probably about, it was actually, it was actually going on almost two years, two and a half. And when, I could tell us [00:52:00] about the chewing gum, but I won’t, we’ll keep that our own, our own little, secret.

[00:52:05] And everything, but it shows you how much I love this girl.

[00:52:12] Well, I can hear people out there that don’t know the message. What is he talking about? But everybody in the mansards they know the code. Right. But yeah, it was. When she, it was, it was really amazing. I think it was 2008. It was 2008 when we got married. And, cause I just purchased this trailer in 2007.

[00:52:39] So, we’d been living here, me and, Amy and, Rachel and Isaac, cause it was a baby, even living in a home and then, The Lord began to just, it was just amazing how everything just, just opened up. You know, it’s just, if you gotta let it go, [00:53:00] yo man, if you love, if you love that girl, you got to just let it go and let God have his way.

[00:53:08] And I’ll tell you what, you’ll be more happier in front of to push something or force.

[00:53:18] Because if you remember over in the book of revelation, it speaks of a lion and OXA man and an Eagle. And I always see those four as the love relationship with Christ and the church and fathers, you can take that for lion ox, man, and Eagle, and you can put those three on the boy that. Seize your daughter and see if he can fulfill each one of those, the lion.

[00:53:46] Cause when he roars all the rest of the lines are going to leave these young lions they gone. So when the ox comes in the lion, the ox you find out. Now [00:54:00] you’re going to find out father, how much of a beast of burden he’ll be. If he says you to have you in by eight 30, you better have her in by eight o’clock.

[00:54:11] He brought her sword, that you’re the beast of burden. You can sacrifice whatever it is he asks of you to do it. So you’ve got the lion, the ox now the man and see young man you’re showing you’re that girl that you love, you showing her what a man. He is now you sewing her about being obedient as a man that if you don’t respect her father, And young lady, if he don’t respect your headship, he sure ain’t gonna respect you.

[00:54:42] If he don’t respect your headship, he’s not gonna respect you. So you take the lion, the ox, the man, and now you come to the Eagle and that’s where restoration comes in. And now what was a part of you to begin with before [00:55:00] the foundation of the world? And that word helped me. Comes from the Greek word. I believe it’s the Greek word of Hebrew Telio which means she positioned certainly places you as a man, because if we have hits yet is what she gives you.

[00:55:16] So that’s why you want to have a good hit. So that’s why fathers, you have a good headship. You treat your daughter like a princess, and I promise you, she won’t just take some little old guy that comes in. She’s going to look at somebody with headship and love and respect like you got for her mother, and she’s going to see that.

[00:55:39] And it’s, you don’t see that in that man lion ox, man, Eagle brothers, you put those four tests on him and if he don’t come through those four, he’s not the one for your daughter. Tell you because the true love relationship between Christ. In the church [00:56:00] is the lion, the ox, the man and the Eagle.

[00:56:05] Luis Urrego: [00:56:05] That’s very interesting brother, Keith, I’ve never, I’ve never thought about the, for the, the, for, combat base in that way.

[00:56:12] And so that’s, that’s, that’s very interesting. very interesting. I’m going to have to go through that again. Cause I got two daughters. I got a 13 year old and an eight year old and And so just to thank, you know, just yesterday, you know, they were my little girl’s sweet little girl that was holding and, and now, you know, at some point, you know, there’s going to be man, you know, guys who are going to be interested in her and that’s something you don’t want to think about, but that’s the truth.

[00:56:40] That’s just the reality. And, But, I’d say to her, I say is just as much as important to the guy as it is to the girl. You make sure that you, the first and foremost, you have the Holy spirit in your life. You have that new birth in your soul because it’s gonna, it’s gonna drive you to, to choose the right [00:57:00] person.

[00:57:00] Not by the way they look not by the way, but by that character that they have that relationship that they have with the Holy spirit, with God himself.

[00:57:11] Keith Brown: [00:57:11] You treat her like she is somebody else’s wife and your relationship will be more cause you don’t want to cheat when you it’s so easy. Even children and his message is they can cheaper in a relationship.

[00:57:28] You keep that relationship pure. You make a covenant before God, because that’s, what’s just the charity and idea. We made a covenant before God that we would never kiss that I lived with knocking until optic that vein off of her. When I lifted that veil and I put my lips against her. Whew. It was special because we kept it true.

[00:57:57] Here’s another thing too, as a minister. [00:58:00] If I stand up on a sacred, behind a sacred desk and I’m ministering to young people, I have to let them know. Yeah,

[00:58:12] you can do it. You can do it. I had different ones. Tell me, they said we brought a key. Did you sister charity, did, did y’all not kiss or anything? I said, no, we didn’t. And I said, and I’m very thankful we didn’t, because now I can stand in front of you and tell you that you can do it too.

[00:58:35] Luis Urrego: [00:58:35] Amen. Amen.

[00:58:37] You’re going to enjoy that moment more if you don’t. It’s true. Don’t rush. Don’t rush. Just like what you said, you’re going to, you’re going to be able to do like brother Keith said just like brother Keith did.

[00:58:56] You’re a sounded better brother. Key.

[00:59:02] [00:59:00] But it’s a special moment. It’s a special time. And there’s a reason why God said, Hey, look, it’s worth the wait. It’s worth the wait. and that’s just something so important that our young people can, can just, if they could just grab that something, but parents have to instill that in their children from a young age, it’s not just that the children are automatically going to learn that.

[00:59:25] Parents have a part to play in that, in that I believe that with all my heart brothers, brother, Keith. So we’re finishing up here. We’ve probably got maybe like five, six more minutes. Is there any last few things that maybe you want to share with us before, before we call it quits for the night? We’re going up to two hours here and just a little, but,

[00:59:49] well, it’s an hour, hour and 44 minutes right

[00:59:51] Keith Brown: [00:59:51] now. I can speak in my life now. And I’m very thankful [01:00:00] that God brought sister charity into my life. I’m very thankful for the life that I have now. I don’t think any other woman would have been able to fulfill to be a mother. A grandmother, you know, to have to step in and take that glove.

[01:00:22] And not only that, but to the spiritual side, because when you lose, you lose your wife, a pastor does the church becomes kind of a out of balance because you have all this, the, the male leadership, but you don’t have that female leadership with the sisters and different things like that. You know? So even as a pastor, you have to be very, very careful.

[01:00:48] And that’d be very, very wise with your own ministry at that time, but I’m very thankful because she just, she is feeding every, every one of those [01:01:00] aspects, even as a pastor’s wife, she just fit right in the glove and just the glove just fit, you know? Cause God knew, I mean, my goodness, she was young lady, ladies.

[01:01:12] She was 31 years old. And no, no young man was able to take her because it took, an old, a statesman that God allowed to bring into her life. I was the one, you know what I tell the younger men and the message years ago, I’d say too bad.

[01:01:42] That’s it.

[01:01:42] Luis Urrego: [01:01:42] I’ll tell you sister charity, she’s a special one. She’s very sweet, very kind. And I loved her spirit, her spirit, every ever since I’ve met her,

[01:01:51] Keith Brown: [01:01:51] she was schooled in the home to do the position that she’s doing now. But one years old and a [01:02:00] lot of her, her sisters got married before she is, you know, but you know, she was, she was dedicated.

[01:02:07] Dedicated to her dad dedicated to her church, is it’s like, it’s like just one thing. It’s like, I used to tell my boys before they got married, I said, delight yourself in God’s people. Oh, my young people, if you could just delight yourself and say, well, how do we do that? Where do you go more lawn?

[01:02:30] You can go paint a house. You go do something. You go help a widow. You go help an older family. You knew these saints, you get him a church. You can drive. Now drive the church. That’s what my son’s name. And now they got two beautiful.

[01:02:51] Your ladies in their marriage, their lives, you know, their families, God has blessed them, but you delight yourself in God’s [01:03:00] people and you watch what God will do for you. I love each one of you out there really, really do. And I thank you for all your prayers of what I’ve been through and, Just be praying for us as a church, then we can continue on believe in what God has brought in this day and hour that we live in, because I know that this message is going to see this through my brother.

[01:03:24] Luis Urrego: [01:03:24] Amen. Amen, brother, Keith, very wise words in very good words for the, for the young people that are listening to maybe listen to us right now, or that will listen to us. I can tell that you have a burden for, for the young people in that way. And I think we should. they need guidance. Sometimes they may not show it.

[01:03:44] Sometimes they want to do their own thing, but ultimately they want somebody to listen to them and want them to guide you, guide them. And, what better person to get this type of guidance? A person like brother, a statesman like brother Keith who’s [01:04:00] he’s, he’s on, he, he he’s gone through so much and, learned a lot, but, I know that I’ve gleaned a lot of things here through this interview, brother, Keith, and, Certainly thank you for taking the time to do this with us.

[01:04:11] And I hope that it’s not the last time, my Lord willing, maybe another time as thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed it. And I hope that our listeners, I hope that our listeners enjoy as

[01:04:21] Keith Brown: [01:04:21] well say Leland fire and get me go with an eye, when he’s podcasts.

[01:04:29] Luis Urrego: [01:04:29] Oh, very Keith it’s a might as well, you know, just take advantage of the technologies there.

[01:04:35] You know what I always said, you know, we could take that, that, that knowledge of the good and evil and use it for good, you know, and, and, and, and calm the devil on the head with it. You know, he wants to use it for evil, but we’re using it for good and to bless his people, to bless others. So, well, brother, Keith,

[01:04:54] Keith Brown: [01:04:54] I just really, really have a blessed, maybe next time, as I said, if you would like to do [01:05:00] it or whatever, I love you to hear sister charities side of her story.

[01:05:04] And everything, because, I don’t think I even got to finish about the dream, because we just got so excited about talking with young people and everything and things and everything. But I will say this is that one thing, brother, Brian, who said in the dream is a win. When I walked through the big tent we were in.

[01:05:26] And I’ll walk behind her. I couldn’t see who she was, but brother Brandon was faced in her and he said, now, now, well, sister don’t don’t be upset. Everything will work out. In fact, I see a little pitter patter feet running across the asphalt, turned her around and it was sister charity, my loving, gracious wife, but I’m married to male and I held that for two.

[01:05:55] Years in my heart. Wow. Just [01:06:00] had to share that out for you.

[01:06:01] Luis Urrego: [01:06:01] No, I’m glad that she did. I totally forgot that we got, got away from the, what your dream was exactly about. That is that’s powerful brother, Keith and

[01:06:13] Keith Brown: [01:06:13] her feet running on the asphalt. Okay.

[01:06:17] Luis Urrego: [01:06:17] And that has happened,

[01:06:23] Lord. Yes. Next time. I think sister charities, they’re in the room with you, but next time we’re going to have to get her, tell her side of the story. Maybe take two hours. I’m sure

[01:06:35] Keith Brown: [01:06:35] you’re all around the internet fireplace area,

[01:06:40] Luis Urrego: [01:06:40] right.

[01:06:44] Keith Brown: [01:06:44] Or testimony.

[01:06:46] Luis Urrego: [01:06:46] Well, we’ll certainly look forward to hearing that. So maybe if she can land that up here, maybe we can do it within a week or two or so, so

[01:06:53] Keith Brown: [01:06:53] good. Sounds real good, brother.

[01:06:56] Luis Urrego: [01:06:56] All right, brother. Keith will thank you so much for your time [01:07:00] and, God bless you and you all have a wonderful service tomorrow and you greet those brothers for us for the whole sway and it brought both hosts ways and all of them.

[01:07:09] I love those brothers. We brought us

[01:07:11] Keith Brown: [01:07:11] so precious. They got our, Facebook live. Because I had not been able to be in church and they, they worked this thing up where they could split the screen. And, you know, you gotta know when to turn that camera around and all that stuff, but once you get it down, you really realize the, the, the power of it.

[01:07:30] Cause there’s a lot of people that are shut in, know that, that can’t come to church and, the right word of God can, can, can bring any situation.

[01:07:42] Luis Urrego: [01:07:42] Amen brother, Keith.

[01:07:44] Keith Brown: [01:07:44] God bless you. God bless everybody out there in the internet. World hope said something today that will encourage you just to serve the Lord.

[01:07:53] Love him more with a deeper wall.

[01:07:57] Luis Urrego: [01:07:57] I remember the key Lord. Bless you. And we’ll [01:08:00] be staying in touch. Okay. We trust that you have enjoyed this interview with brother Keith Brown. I certainly enjoyed it myself, as I was interviewing him, what a sad story that he, that he, his testimony, but ultimately God knows exactly what we.

[01:08:22] What we need to go through in order to become more like him, God is concerned about a character building in our lives. So he knows exactly what we need to go through in order for our character to be built and for us to be growing into the image and the stature of our Lord Jesus Christ. And ultimately as one of the Keith said as well.

[01:08:46] And the interview, sometimes God allows things, not necessarily for you. But also for the others around you. And that’s very important to understand, because you could be going through something in your life right now. And you’re wondering, [01:09:00] why is this happening to me? What is it that you’re trying to teach me Lord?

[01:09:04] But in reality, he might be trying to teach a lesson to, maybe your wife or trying to mold something maybe in your children, or maybe even somebody in your own church. So we don’t know why God allows things ultimately, but one thing’s for sure. The Bible says there are things work together for good to them that love God.

[01:09:25] He didn’t say that everything was going to be good. He just said that all things, whether they’re good or bad, we’ll work together for the good of them that love God. And I believe those are his children. He’s going to beat us. He’s going to, or he’s going to allow things in our life. In order so that we can come out, tried as gold, just like that gold.

[01:09:46] Then when that, when that gold, that Goldsmith is beating that, that, that gold is trying to take out all the impurities, everything that needs everything that needs to be taken out, that doesn’t belong there so that that gold can shine fully at [01:10:00] its strength. So I trust that you enjoyed this episode today.

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